Botcon Thundercracker Revealed!

F'ING PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: Proof Thundercracker is the best looking seeker! And he has his shoulder stickers?

Looks great! Just like MP Starscream, I mean Classics Thundercracker should look.

Now all I need to see is Thrust before I decide to drop the money on the set. He's the one that I decided early on would be the deal breaker for me.

Oh, look!

They made him from pure sex! and what with the cost of sex on the market today, they're really playing into fan expectations.

Bravo!

woot:D can't say that I have been waiting this, but wow!

Man, the blue on Dirge and Thundercracker look very close to being the same though.

Hmm. Not bad. Not mind-blowing, but not bad. I'd have preferred a deeper, less turquoise blue but it may just be the lighting.

-Nick

Excellent work. I prefer the slightly darker blue myself, but congrats to everybody getting the Botcon set...that's a nice looking figure.

Nice!! Damn you overpriced repaint exclusives! Why do you smite me you smiting, smiter!

Yay! I love it when a figure is produced that everybody wants yet only those fortunate enough to got to BotCon are able to get!

Exclusives are the Phat Bomb!

[/sarcasm]

Fogive me if this comes off as bitter, but why couldn't this have been a general release or store exclusive again?

I hate Hasbro right now. I'll be lucky if I ever get to be in the same room with this toy let alone play with it.

A thing of beauty!! I only hope that Thrust is equally as nice!

Nice. Too bad the cost is prohibiting me from finishing the classic seekers.

I like it! I love it! I want some more of it!

Fender Bender wrote:Man, the blue on Dirge and Thundercracker look very close to being the same though.

They probably are the same blue. In fact, with the exception of the cone head, cockpit, and wings they're the same figure. They both have black feet, thrusters, lower arms, and hands. My guess is, they pop off a bunch out of the same mold and designate so many as Dirge and so many as Thundercracker. It's only the wings, head, and cockpit that are different.

magus wrote:

Fender Bender wrote:Man, the blue on Dirge and Thundercracker look very close to being the same though.

They probably are the same blue. In fact, with the exception of the cone head, cockpit, and wings they're the same figure. They both have black feet, thrusters, lower arms, and hands. My guess is, they pop off a bunch out of the same mold and designate so many as Dirge and so many as Thundercracker. It's only the wings, head, and cockpit that are different.

I don't think it's the same blue. Thundercracker seems to have somewhat of a glitter in his plastic.

I bet they are the same colors as the G1 reissues Hasbro did three years ago. Check those, you'll clearly see the difference.

Meh. It's nice, but seems alot like the one some guy kitbashed some time ago.

Once again, watch as Hasbro screws over the world in favour of the few.

Good job guys, good job...

Counterpunch wrote:

magus wrote:

Fender Bender wrote:Man, the blue on Dirge and Thundercracker look very close to being the same though.

They probably are the same blue. In fact, with the exception of the cone head, cockpit, and wings they're the same figure. They both have black feet, thrusters, lower arms, and hands. My guess is, they pop off a bunch out of the same mold and designate so many as Dirge and so many as Thundercracker. It's only the wings, head, and cockpit that are different.

I don't think it's the same blue. Thundercracker seems to have somewhat of a glitter in his plastic.

I bet they are the same colors as the G1 reissues Hasbro did three years ago. Check those, you'll clearly see the difference.

You could be right it's hard to tell from those pics for sure. I do see the glitter you're talking about though. However, I can only really make it out on the wings and the tip of the nosecone on Thundercracker... both pieces which are different from Dirge.

Lord Crump wrote:Meh. It's nice, but seems alot like the one some guy kitbashed some time ago.

Once again, watch as Hasbro screws over the world in favour of the few.

Good job guys, good job...

Does not the entire world skrew people over in favour of the few?

Looks stunning. No complaints at all.

Why make thousands of dollars when we can make hundreds of dollars?

It would have been nice if they'd used some smaller guns for these seekers...I'm pretty sure hard-core collectors don't give a darn about firing missiles.

I've nearly lost my missles a couple of times when trying to transform them. I did that the first time I transformed Starscream and nearly everytime I transofrm Classics Jetfire. I just have to take the missles off now so they don't accidentally shoot off.

Meh...

Repainted Starscreams are really getting old for me. I wouldn't buy this guy if he was mass-produced and sold at retail, I'm certainly not gonna pay 200$ on eBay for one...

I don't think any convention exclusive will be able to beat last year's Botcon exclusives, the Beast Wars set was awesome!

Swerve wrote:Why make thousands of dollars when we can make hundreds of dollars?

Please present your marketing and/or large-market manufacturing degree.

Then please proceed to explain by way of market analysis how you can prove that you know better than a multi-billion dollar corporation with 20+ years of experience.

I, personally don't have those. So I know I'm not really in a place to second guess one of the largest toy manufacturers in the world.

Swerve wrote:Why make thousands of dollars when we can make hundreds of dollars?

Incorrect statement. While we are collectors, we represent a small percentage of revenues for the TF line. If they were to produce a whole run of these...they would become shelf warmers. Think about it from the primary group that purchases TFs...parents. If you go to the store and see Thrust, Dirge, Ramjet, and Thundercracker on the shelf, you basically see the same 4 figures (in their mind) with just a different color. So they only buy one seeker. Thrusts are all ready clogging up the shelves at my stores right next to Cliffjumper...the repaints, so why make 3 more repaint characters? They won't sell enough to clear them out and stores will be pissed.

Aww, man! Why do they always have to be exclusives?? Will we ever get a proper seeker set?

GetterDragun wrote:

Swerve wrote:Why make thousands of dollars when we can make hundreds of dollars?

Incorrect statement. While we are collectors, we represent a small percentage of revenues for the TF line. If they were to produce a whole run of these...they would become shelf warmers. Think about it from the primary group that purchases TFs...parents. If you go to the store and see Thrust, Dirge, Ramjet, and Thundercracker on the shelf, you basically see the same 4 figures (in their mind) with just a different color. So they only buy one seeker. Thrusts are all ready clogging up the shelves at my stores right next to Cliffjumper...the repaints, so why make 3 more repaint characters? They won't sell enough to clear them out and stores will be pissed.

You meant Ramjet, right GD?

what Hasbro should do is release a couple seeker 3-packs. first one have Starscream, Skywarp, and ThunderCraker. Then another that has Ramjet, Dirge, and Thrust. but they won't do that, no. I can't get this figure, cuz I can't make the 'con. Thats the sh*ts man!

Fender Bender wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:

Swerve wrote:Why make thousands of dollars when we can make hundreds of dollars?

Incorrect statement. While we are collectors, we represent a small percentage of revenues for the TF line. If they were to produce a whole run of these...they would become shelf warmers. Think about it from the primary group that purchases TFs...parents. If you go to the store and see Thrust, Dirge, Ramjet, and Thundercracker on the shelf, you basically see the same 4 figures (in their mind) with just a different color. So they only buy one seeker. Thrusts are all ready clogging up the shelves at my stores right next to Cliffjumper...the repaints, so why make 3 more repaint characters? They won't sell enough to clear them out and stores will be pissed.

You meant Ramjet, right GD?

I proved my own point! I'm a collector and I can't even tell the difference between the coneheads!

I am asking this nicely before any kinds of arguments erupt..
Please keep the unnecessary comments out of this thread.

If someone asks or says something, and you have a reply in mind that you know may start a conflict of some sort please keep that reply to yourself.

That goes for anyone that feels the need to bash Hasbro as well.

Keep it civil.

Yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dig it and I can't wait for my set to show up (I did the Iacon package).

Don't want to derail the thread even more, but the repaint filler on the shelf argument isn't the only valid one. There are multiple ways that Hasbro could have gotten these guys into the mass market, with profit to spare and no complaints...but giving the Botcon crowd a huge lift made more financial sense. It's hype, it's publicity in the marketplace, and it drives numbers ahead of the movie...all a win for them.

Besides that, the fan community is the test market for everything the TF brand does, and helps give Hasbro the ability to ink deals with Dreamworks to get a movie made. Are there multiple websites full of fans clamoring for a neopets movie?

As for Hasbro's marketing savvy, well...they do own the North American rights to Duel-masters, after all.

Counterpunch wrote:

Swerve wrote:Why make thousands of dollars when we can make hundreds of dollars?

Please present your marketing and/or large-market manufacturing degree.

Then please proceed to explain by way of market analysis how you can prove that you know better than a multi-billion dollar corporation with 20+ years of experience.

I, personally don't have those. So I know I'm not really in a place to second guess one of the largest toy manufacturers in the world.

I was just making a smartass comment. I think it's actually a quote from Dr. Evil asking why make billions when they could make millions.

sooo sick, awesome.

I love it even if Dirge and him share the same color blue. I especially like the smaller paint details added and may have to touch both Starscream and Skywarp to match.

Just need to see Thrust and deal is set.

If you like what you see still can send in the order form for the Iacon package and get the set delivered to your house if you can't attend the con.

I will scrape the money together to get this set!

Swerve wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Swerve wrote:Why make thousands of dollars when we can make hundreds of dollars?

Please present your marketing and/or large-market manufacturing degree.

Then please proceed to explain by way of market analysis how you can prove that you know better than a multi-billion dollar corporation with 20+ years of experience.

I, personally don't have those. So I know I'm not really in a place to second guess one of the largest toy manufacturers in the world.

I was just making a smartass comment. I think it's actually a quote from Dr. Evil asking why make billions when they could make millions.

I'm not smart enough to recognize sarcasim...

Me fail English? Thats unpossible!

Yes Ralph everything's unpossible. lol That was so funny that everyone got all defensive. Why make 100's of dollars when you could make 10's hahahaha. I love our crazy fan base... you guys are my only friends. (Quote from Half Baked about Abazaba.)

I hope they do consider putting these as an internet exclusive on their site afterwards. I would love to get my hands on one, but I can't afford to go to Botcon.

looks great!

Roadbuster wrote:I hope they do consider putting these as an internet exclusive on their site afterwards. I would love to get my hands on one, but I can't afford to go to Botcon.

You don't have to go to get them.

You can order a non-attending package. Yea, it's $280 for members of the club, but at least that way you are saving on your travel expenses etc.

awsomd, im realy glad im getting it and going to botcon this year, however....

i still beleive out of all the figures, this one realy needed to have been a general release, and not an exclusive

shiny

why's everyone making such a big deal about him? its just a repaint from classics Starscream. I bet everyone here will have another orgasm when Skywarp comes out, who's just going to be another repaint from screamer. ooooohhhh, aaaaahhhh, wow, perfect!!! look at him!!! *rolls eyes*

Sweet, my trip to RI will not have been in vain. He's the whole reason that I'm going.

Counterpunch wrote:

Swerve wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Swerve wrote:Why make thousands of dollars when we can make hundreds of dollars?

Please present your marketing and/or large-market manufacturing degree.

Then please proceed to explain by way of market analysis how you can prove that you know better than a multi-billion dollar corporation with 20+ years of experience.

I, personally don't have those. So I know I'm not really in a place to second guess one of the largest toy manufacturers in the world.

I was just making a smartass comment. I think it's actually a quote from Dr. Evil asking why make billions when they could make millions.

I'm not smart enough to recognize sarcasim...

Me fail English? Thats unpossible!

Sarcasm doesn't translate very well sometimes in the written form.

thehmphone wrote:why's everyone making such a big deal about him? its just a repaint from classics Starscream. I bet everyone here will have another orgasm when Skywarp comes out, who's just going to be another repaint from screamer. ooooohhhh, aaaaahhhh, wow, perfect!!! look at him!!! *rolls eyes*

Skywarp has already been released and yes, oragsms were had which is very akward since Target is a family oriented business as it was explained to me by the arresting officer.

Perfect now is gonna cost me fortune to get this exclusive

Satanatron wrote:Perfect now is gonna cost me fortune to get this exclusive

Maybe, but you'll have him. Send in that Iacon order form!

A great-looking repaint! And so what if it IS a repaint--so were the original seekers, minus the new wing designs on the last three...

Color me excited!