Generations Darkmount (Straxus) gallery now online

I really like this figure, but not keen on his semi-connected ankles, i feel they should be completely connected, but if their pretty solid and holds up over time i guess its ok with me.

awesome job on the gallery too!!

Yet another Generations figure I'm planning to pick up. Straxus/Darkmount looks awesome, and will fit in great with my other Universe/Generations figures.

So far though I've only seen Wave 1 near where I live, so hopefully Wave 2 comes out soon.

Generations is shaping up to be my want list for the past decade. Jazz, Thunderwing, Scourge, Tracks, Grapple, Windcharger... and this glorious Straxus figure. Huge thanks to someone listening at HasTak. Some nods to the really rich lore and history that makes the Transformers line so interesting.

Why must Transformers continue to look more and more like comic book characters ??? I am not familiar with "Straxus". I have watched G1, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and Beast Wars series and never heard of him. Exactly where does Straxus come from ??? If the answer is comic books then that is why I never heard of him. I dont read em very often.

hopefully next we get a Jhiaxus toy

Rated X wrote:Why must Transformers continue to look more and more like comic book characters ??? I am not familiar with "Straxus". I have watched G1, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and Beast Wars series and never heard of him. Exactly where does Straxus come from ??? If the answer is comic books then that is why I never heard of him. I dont read em very often.

Check out the gallery! Your answer is there.

Rated X wrote:Why must Transformers continue to look more and more like comic book characters ??? I am not familiar with "Straxus". I have watched G1, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and Beast Wars series and never heard of him. Exactly where does Straxus come from ??? If the answer is comic books then that is why I never heard of him. I dont read em very often.

There was a time where your perceptions of Transformers were derived from one of two sources, the cartoon or the Marvel comics.

Though for YEARS I was loathe to read through them due to the terrible art, I have recently been picking up the Marvel G1 comics and the stories are at least as enjoyable as the old cartoons.

They have their issues, but many of those are just symptoms of the comic industry at the time. There's some worthwhile storytelling in there though.

Counterpunch wrote:

Rated X wrote:Why must Transformers continue to look more and more like comic book characters ??? I am not familiar with "Straxus". I have watched G1, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and Beast Wars series and never heard of him. Exactly where does Straxus come from ??? If the answer is comic books then that is why I never heard of him. I dont read em very often.

There was a time where your perceptions of Transformers were derived from one of two sources, the cartoon or the Marvel comics.

Though for YEARS I was loathe to read through them due to the terrible art, I have recently been picking up the Marvel G1 comics and the stories are at least as enjoyable as the old cartoons.

They have their issues, but many of those are just symptoms of the comic industry at the time. There's some worthwhile storytelling in there though.

And there was a looong time where we only had the Marvel comics. The comics lasted at least 3 years longer than the cartoon did. Not to mention the UK comics which were delivered weekly with your weekend newspaper if you had a subscription. The comics even had a stronger influence overseas. It's my perception that the comic was THE primary medium for Transformers during the 80s in the UK. Straxus ended up having a much more prominent role later in the UK comics than he did in the US.

I've recently gotten back into collecting the old UK comics. First, the recent trade paperbacks are no substitute for the actual books. There's something to be said for all of the extras that were in the UK comics outside of the actual books, not to mention that not all of the UK stories have been reprinted yet (not by a long shot). Despite having scans of the entire UK comic run on my computer for the past 8 years, I have refused to read them that way and waited until I owned the actual comics to read them. It has been a real treat reading the stories that "happened" between the US stories. I feel like I'm rediscovering the old school comics all over again. It's a really nostalgic feeling which I haven't felt in quite a while since I own all of the U.S. Transformers toys.

Well, buy on sight for him. I need more Decepticons. Man, Generations is shaping up to be hurting my wallet something fierce! And I love it!

I have no problem with Straxus as a character, just that he's one more Decepticon big wig getting a toy. Sure, the Decepticons went through a lot of those compared to the Autobots, but irregardless of the fact he's getting a retool as Skullgrin I still feel like his mold is taking up space in the line that could be used for some other lower ranked Decepticon character. Not counting most redeco's and/or retools from classics/universe/generations it would seem the bots have the cons well outnumbered in terms of foot soldiers. Instead we have top names like Megatron with 3 different molds, Galvatron, Straxus, and soon Thunderwing! Fair enough, but could we get some more big name Autobots as well, like Fort Max or Dai Atlas?

How are the ankles, Seibertron? That's the one area of concern for me. Everything else about him looks great.

@Shadowstream
Problem is, most of those other Autobot leaders were very large toys originally. They wouldn't fit well in the Generations line now as Deluxe figures. Plus I doubt we will ever see new molds larger than Universe's Ultra class. In Dai Atlas's case, an Ultra class mold would probably work. For Fort Max? No way. He deserves something bigger.

Tirade wrote:@Shadowstream
Problem is, most of those other Autobot leaders were very large toys originally. They wouldn't fit well in the Generations line now as Deluxe figures. Plus I doubt we will ever see new molds larger than Universe's Ultra class. In Dai Atlas's case, an Ultra class mold would probably work. For Fort Max? No way. He deserves something bigger.

And the same couldn't be said of Galvatron, Straxus, or Thunderwing? Yeah, I don't think scale is an issue here, given they throw that out the window just to get a character released.

It's about time Straxus get's recognized as a figure and not just a decepticon in issues 17 and 18. It took Hasbro this long to thnk of it? I started thinking about designing my own figure for him and Scrounge.

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:@Shadowstream
Problem is, most of those other Autobot leaders were very large toys originally. They wouldn't fit well in the Generations line now as Deluxe figures. Plus I doubt we will ever see new molds larger than Universe's Ultra class. In Dai Atlas's case, an Ultra class mold would probably work. For Fort Max? No way. He deserves something bigger.

And the same couldn't be said of Galvatron, Straxus, or Thunderwing? Yeah, I don't think scale is an issue here, given they throw that out the window just to get a character released.

We all know Galvatron should have been switched with Powerglide. I'll grant that. As for Thuderwing, his toy was hardly towering. I think Deluxe sized fits him fine. With Straxus, we don't have much reference material outside of the comic. Based on the comics, I think Deluxe is a solid size for him. I can't imagine him being any larger than Voyager sized. The only way Fort Max is going to be done is as a Deluxe sized Cerebros figure. I don't see him happening in any other form.

Agreed.

Where Galvatron fails as a Deluxe, Straxus is nicely scaled to DL Blaster.

Tirade wrote:How are the ankles, Seibertron? That's the one area of concern for me. Everything else about him looks great.

As you can see from this picture where he's standing on one foot, the ankles are just fine!



Many of the photos in this gallery showcase how flexible having an ankle ball joint is on this figure. He's really an extremely poseable figure.

Tirade wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:@Shadowstream
Problem is, most of those other Autobot leaders were very large toys originally. They wouldn't fit well in the Generations line now as Deluxe figures. Plus I doubt we will ever see new molds larger than Universe's Ultra class. In Dai Atlas's case, an Ultra class mold would probably work. For Fort Max? No way. He deserves something bigger.

And the same couldn't be said of Galvatron, Straxus, or Thunderwing? Yeah, I don't think scale is an issue here, given they throw that out the window just to get a character released.

We all know Galvatron should have been switched with Powerglide. I'll grant that. As for Thuderwing, his toy was hardly towering. I think Deluxe sized fits him fine. With Straxus, we don't have much reference material outside of the comic. Based on the comics, I think Deluxe is a solid size for him. I can't imagine him being any larger than Voyager sized. The only way Fort Max is going to be done is as a Deluxe sized Cerebros figure. I don't see him happening in any other form.

IDW Fort Max is a normal sized TF and likewise Thunderwing is enormous. Also, the scale of any given character in the Marvel comics varied at any moment.

Bottom line: scale = null.

This toy is awesome, trust me his ankles are no issue at all this Generations line is possibly the best range of deluxes yet even Thrust who's based of the Classics Starscream mold (a mold we all thought was completely deteriorated) turned out to be totally awesome he's tighter than my Classics Starscream!

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:@Shadowstream
Problem is, most of those other Autobot leaders were very large toys originally. They wouldn't fit well in the Generations line now as Deluxe figures. Plus I doubt we will ever see new molds larger than Universe's Ultra class. In Dai Atlas's case, an Ultra class mold would probably work. For Fort Max? No way. He deserves something bigger.

And the same couldn't be said of Galvatron, Straxus, or Thunderwing? Yeah, I don't think scale is an issue here, given they throw that out the window just to get a character released.

We all know Galvatron should have been switched with Powerglide. I'll grant that. As for Thuderwing, his toy was hardly towering. I think Deluxe sized fits him fine. With Straxus, we don't have much reference material outside of the comic. Based on the comics, I think Deluxe is a solid size for him. I can't imagine him being any larger than Voyager sized. The only way Fort Max is going to be done is as a Deluxe sized Cerebros figure. I don't see him happening in any other form.

IDW Fort Max is a normal sized TF and likewise Thunderwing is enormous. Also, the scale of any given character in the Marvel comics varied at any moment.

Bottom line: scale = null.

*Sigh* I'm basing this off of the original toys, not their comic book appearances (and the odd IDW size choices). I only mentioned comics because of Darkmount/Straxus. The Marvel comics are the only reference material we have for him.

Can't wait to see this in stores. He shall be bought on sight... if I have cash on me.

Tirade wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:@Shadowstream
Problem is, most of those other Autobot leaders were very large toys originally. They wouldn't fit well in the Generations line now as Deluxe figures. Plus I doubt we will ever see new molds larger than Universe's Ultra class. In Dai Atlas's case, an Ultra class mold would probably work. For Fort Max? No way. He deserves something bigger.

And the same couldn't be said of Galvatron, Straxus, or Thunderwing? Yeah, I don't think scale is an issue here, given they throw that out the window just to get a character released.

We all know Galvatron should have been switched with Powerglide. I'll grant that. As for Thuderwing, his toy was hardly towering. I think Deluxe sized fits him fine. With Straxus, we don't have much reference material outside of the comic. Based on the comics, I think Deluxe is a solid size for him. I can't imagine him being any larger than Voyager sized. The only way Fort Max is going to be done is as a Deluxe sized Cerebros figure. I don't see him happening in any other form.

IDW Fort Max is a normal sized TF and likewise Thunderwing is enormous. Also, the scale of any given character in the Marvel comics varied at any moment.

Bottom line: scale = null.

*Sigh* I'm basing this off of the original toys, not their comic book appearances (and the odd IDW size choices). I only mentioned comics because of Darkmount/Straxus. The Marvel comics are the only reference material we have for him.

I'll throw in my vote for a Leader Class or Supreme Class Fortress Maximus and Scorponok!

I think any size class that wouldn't allow for a base mode that interacts with Mini-Cons and maybe have gun ports for Scout class figures would be an insult to both of those characters -- Fort Max in particular.

As for Scorponok, I would settle for a G1 colored Energon Scorponok in the Classics line as well as a G1 colored Energon "Shockblast" toy. If they did a toy from scratch to honor G1 Scorponok and also had Fort Max as his direct box case counterpart, I'd have to hold out hope for a Leader Class toy.

Seibertron wrote:

Tirade wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:@Shadowstream
Problem is, most of those other Autobot leaders were very large toys originally. They wouldn't fit well in the Generations line now as Deluxe figures. Plus I doubt we will ever see new molds larger than Universe's Ultra class. In Dai Atlas's case, an Ultra class mold would probably work. For Fort Max? No way. He deserves something bigger.

And the same couldn't be said of Galvatron, Straxus, or Thunderwing? Yeah, I don't think scale is an issue here, given they throw that out the window just to get a character released.

We all know Galvatron should have been switched with Powerglide. I'll grant that. As for Thuderwing, his toy was hardly towering. I think Deluxe sized fits him fine. With Straxus, we don't have much reference material outside of the comic. Based on the comics, I think Deluxe is a solid size for him. I can't imagine him being any larger than Voyager sized. The only way Fort Max is going to be done is as a Deluxe sized Cerebros figure. I don't see him happening in any other form.

IDW Fort Max is a normal sized TF and likewise Thunderwing is enormous. Also, the scale of any given character in the Marvel comics varied at any moment.

Bottom line: scale = null.

*Sigh* I'm basing this off of the original toys, not their comic book appearances (and the odd IDW size choices). I only mentioned comics because of Darkmount/Straxus. The Marvel comics are the only reference material we have for him.

I'll throw in my vote for a Leader Class or Supreme Class Fortress Maximus and Scorponok!

I think any size class that wouldn't allow for a base mode that interacts with Mini-Cons and maybe have gun ports for Scout class figures would be an insult to both of those characters -- Fort Max in particular.

As for Scorponok, I would settle for a G1 colored Energon Scorponok in the Classics line as well as a G1 colored Energon "Shockblast" toy. If they did a toy from scratch to honor G1 Scorponok and also had Fort Max as his direct box case counterpart, I'd have to hold out hope for a Leader Class toy.

Personally, I think a leader class of either of those toys is possible, it just depends if you're willing to get them re imagined for whatever TV show they have at the time. Remember how there was an Animated Supreme Roll Command Optimus, but not an Omega Supreme? The reason why there was one of Optimus is that he was a part of the show, and was in almost every episode, while Omega was used more often as a location than a character. So in order for these guys to get re imagined, they have to be triple changers that plug into the larger figure, but be able to interact with other characters on a smaller scale, like Fort Max in the japanese head master cartoon.

Well technically, if you go by how big Blaster and Straxus were relative to each other in their fight in #18, this toy is most in scale with Action Master Blaster, but considering the original Blaster was a toy the size of Devastator that we were supposed to pretend was only half that, this Darkmount does quite nicely. During the 1988-93 stretch where no cable meant no access to the G1 toon, I became steadfastly loyal to comic continuity, and believe no toyless character from either G1 universe deserved this treatment more than the Lord High Governor of Polyhex here. I'll have to supress a fangasm whenever I see him on the shelf.

Now as for this talk of a toy for the obscure Autobot debuting in #17, Scrounge was a beautifully tragic character, but since he turns into a wheel that rolls around on edge, I see 2 problems:

1) I'm not sure that's something the younger fans would deem exciting on sight. I mean, I'd have preferred Straxus's flying cannon mode over Darkmount's Earth tank, but realize they had to do it this way as his Cybertron mode wouldn't really look like anything to most newbies who haven't read issue #18.

2) He'd be tough to engineer, what with Scrounge's robot mode having no curvy alt-mode features.

Then again, we just got a toy that DOES become a little wheel, and it's Scrounge's old resistance teammate to boot: Cosmos! All they'd have to do to the Classics Legends Cosmos mold is slice off that tailfin and remold the head, and we'd have a pretty decent Scrounge. Sure it wouldn't have the finger gimmick, but any toy with that would be too big for the character. If Hasbro won't do it for these waves of Generations Legends coming out soon, maybe as a Botcon exclusive? Fans probably shouldn't kitbash too many themselves though, as Cosmos is likely the second most desired/expensive of those legends after Bumblebee, on both sides of the pond. Has this been suggested before?

Chupacabra Convoy wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Tirade wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:

Tirade wrote:@Shadowstream
Problem is, most of those other Autobot leaders were very large toys originally. They wouldn't fit well in the Generations line now as Deluxe figures. Plus I doubt we will ever see new molds larger than Universe's Ultra class. In Dai Atlas's case, an Ultra class mold would probably work. For Fort Max? No way. He deserves something bigger.

And the same couldn't be said of Galvatron, Straxus, or Thunderwing? Yeah, I don't think scale is an issue here, given they throw that out the window just to get a character released.

We all know Galvatron should have been switched with Powerglide. I'll grant that. As for Thuderwing, his toy was hardly towering. I think Deluxe sized fits him fine. With Straxus, we don't have much reference material outside of the comic. Based on the comics, I think Deluxe is a solid size for him. I can't imagine him being any larger than Voyager sized. The only way Fort Max is going to be done is as a Deluxe sized Cerebros figure. I don't see him happening in any other form.

IDW Fort Max is a normal sized TF and likewise Thunderwing is enormous. Also, the scale of any given character in the Marvel comics varied at any moment.

Bottom line: scale = null.

*Sigh* I'm basing this off of the original toys, not their comic book appearances (and the odd IDW size choices). I only mentioned comics because of Darkmount/Straxus. The Marvel comics are the only reference material we have for him.

I'll throw in my vote for a Leader Class or Supreme Class Fortress Maximus and Scorponok!

I think any size class that wouldn't allow for a base mode that interacts with Mini-Cons and maybe have gun ports for Scout class figures would be an insult to both of those characters -- Fort Max in particular.

As for Scorponok, I would settle for a G1 colored Energon Scorponok in the Classics line as well as a G1 colored Energon "Shockblast" toy. If they did a toy from scratch to honor G1 Scorponok and also had Fort Max as his direct box case counterpart, I'd have to hold out hope for a Leader Class toy.

Personally, I think a leader class of either of those toys is possible, it just depends if you're willing to get them re imagined for whatever TV show they have at the time. Remember how there was an Animated Supreme Roll Command Optimus, but not an Omega Supreme? The reason why there was one of Optimus is that he was a part of the show, and was in almost every episode, while Omega was used more often as a location than a character. So in order for these guys to get re imagined, they have to be triple changers that plug into the larger figure, but be able to interact with other characters on a smaller scale, like Fort Max in the japanese head master cartoon.

If they actually do make up at least 1-2 Leader Class molds for Generations, like my homie Seibertron, my vote's for Fort. Maximus and Scorponok. Just seems like the logical choice, abd if it's not gonna be Maximus, Metroplex is a good choice as well. C'mon Hasbro, you know you want my moola....

Well, I love the Marvel comics, so I am ashamed to say i was going to pass on this figure. But, thanks to this gallery and this thread, he's now buy on sight.

So, apparently Darkmount's instructions accidentally revealed the Skullgrin head (like Axor and Cliffjumper have been). Could we get pics of that?

Noideaforaname wrote:So, apparently Darkmount's instructions accidentally revealed the Skullgrin head (like Axor and Cliffjumper have been). Could we get pics of that?

I think that's just Darkmount's online instructions.

Counterpunch wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:So, apparently Darkmount's instructions accidentally revealed the Skullgrin head (like Axor and Cliffjumper have been). Could we get pics of that?

I think that's just Darkmount's online instructions.

The real ones do that as well. I forgot to take pics of it but Hasbro did the work for me apparently and posted the actual instructions.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ead/19578/

I added pictures from the actual instructions here:

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery. ... 0&start=15