More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height
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More images of Transformers Studio Series 86 Ironhide were posted on the Cybertron 21 Facebook page.
These give us our best look yet at the figure, especially in robot mode. We also get a sense of his height which does fit the G1 size charts. But remember, he will be sold as voyager class. The alt mode is quite beefy though, compared to deluxes and Hasbro already confirmed that the voyager class is also intended for smaller toys which have more parts. Also, there have been comments regarding the mismatched paint but it's impossible to tell if the paint is mismatched or not since painted surfaced reflect light differently than non painted surfaces making the contrast far greater when seen in a picture than in hand. So it's too early for any comment of the sort. While there is no listing for a ratchet in this size yet, it is bound to happen, and we know that this Ironhide will not be an exclusive.
These give us our best look yet at the figure, especially in robot mode. We also get a sense of his height which does fit the G1 size charts. But remember, he will be sold as voyager class. The alt mode is quite beefy though, compared to deluxes and Hasbro already confirmed that the voyager class is also intended for smaller toys which have more parts. Also, there have been comments regarding the mismatched paint but it's impossible to tell if the paint is mismatched or not since painted surfaced reflect light differently than non painted surfaces making the contrast far greater when seen in a picture than in hand. So it's too early for any comment of the sort. While there is no listing for a ratchet in this size yet, it is bound to happen, and we know that this Ironhide will not be an exclusive.
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Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140567)
Posted by First-Aid on August 5th, 2022 @ 9:59am CDT
Posted by First-Aid on August 5th, 2022 @ 9:59am CDT
Finally got my SS 86 Sludge last night. Just a great fig with a surprisingly complicated transformation. His hip joints are loose though....that's the only complaint.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140568)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:01am CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:01am CDT
Just saw a few more bot mode images of this new Ironhide.
This figure is looking better and better…
The windshield (& windows) appear to be a slightly darker transparent blue color, giving them a “tinted” effect that I appreciate. As someone else said, there’s no reason to be able to see into an “interior” of nothing but bot bits.
So now the couple can mode issues really don’t matter to me.
I can now say I’m excited for this figure!!
This figure is looking better and better…
The windshield (& windows) appear to be a slightly darker transparent blue color, giving them a “tinted” effect that I appreciate. As someone else said, there’s no reason to be able to see into an “interior” of nothing but bot bits.
So now the couple can mode issues really don’t matter to me.
I can now say I’m excited for this figure!!
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140569)
Posted by sol magnus on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:02am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:02am CDT
The body is definitely better, but I like the head of the ER two-pack better. Thank goodness for balljoints.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140570)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:21am CDT
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:21am CDT
Seeing the back, it looks like the engineering is quite similar to Siege / ER, even while all the parts look quite different.
Re: quality, I think it's important to remember that SS86 in particular prioritizes bot mode over alt mode. Obvious hinges and other unsightly alt mode features are par for the course. Even so, it's still much more my speed than ER, so I think it counts as an upgrade even at a higher price point.
Re: quality, I think it's important to remember that SS86 in particular prioritizes bot mode over alt mode. Obvious hinges and other unsightly alt mode features are par for the course. Even so, it's still much more my speed than ER, so I think it counts as an upgrade even at a higher price point.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140572)
Posted by -Crossfire- on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:37am CDT
Posted by -Crossfire- on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:37am CDT
I REALLY like how Ironhide looks. Even for his smaller size, he seems chonky, and the decision to make the van roof as part of his legs and feet are something that should have been done with Earthrise, which will certainly help mitigate the price factor a little. I have no intention of actually getting him, since I did a custom Ironhide out of the Deeseus Drone, but I got gypped on Siege Rachet, so I'll definitely pick up the inevitable retool. 
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140573)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:42am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:42am CDT
With these new pictures it's clear that the designers went the Kingdom Tigatron route. Take the original deluxe, increase the size a bit, and fix what was "broken".
Eh, it work!
Eh, it work!
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140574)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:49am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:49am CDT
So that's incoming updates for Ratchet, Crosshairs, DK-2 Guard and Deseeus Army Drone. The latter three in Selects, I imagine?
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140575)
Posted by o.supreme on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:03am CDT
Although I do like to.see a comparison with Sure/ER Ironhide. I don't think it's any bigger per day. More detailed, more mass because of a greater parts count, but it still looks like a deluxe taken to the max to try to justify the voyager price. I'm not saying it's bad, just an observation.
Posted by o.supreme on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:03am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:With these new pictures it's clear that the designers went the Kingdom Tigatron route. Take the original deluxe, increase the size a bit, and fix what was "broken".
Eh, it work!
Although I do like to.see a comparison with Sure/ER Ironhide. I don't think it's any bigger per day. More detailed, more mass because of a greater parts count, but it still looks like a deluxe taken to the max to try to justify the voyager price. I'm not saying it's bad, just an observation.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140577)
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:21am CDT
I don't think it will be taller either. Siege Ironhide reaches WFC Prime about the same
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:21am CDT
o.supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:With these new pictures it's clear that the designers went the Kingdom Tigatron route. Take the original deluxe, increase the size a bit, and fix what was "broken".
Eh, it work!
Although I do like to.see a comparison with Sure/ER Ironhide. I don't think it's any bigger per day. More detailed, more mass because of a greater parts count, but it still looks like a deluxe taken to the max to try to justify the voyager price. I'm not saying it's bad, just an observation.
I don't think it will be taller either. Siege Ironhide reaches WFC Prime about the same
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140578)
Posted by Overcracker on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:27am CDT
Posted by Overcracker on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:27am CDT
Looking better and better.
Seems a tiny bit shorter that Earthrise based on pictures since I don't actually own Earthrise. But looks a but more intricate and with better engineering overall.
So basically a Voyager in the same vein as SS-86 Hot Rod.
Seems a tiny bit shorter that Earthrise based on pictures since I don't actually own Earthrise. But looks a but more intricate and with better engineering overall.
So basically a Voyager in the same vein as SS-86 Hot Rod.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140579)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:28am CDT
I wouldn’t set my heart on any of that, least of all redos of Crosshairs and the Deseeus Drones, since they are based on the Siege mold, which was much better received than the Earthrise mold, and it adds more distinction between SS86 Ironhide and Crosshairs, who traditionally are NOT mold mates With regard to the G1 toys and the Sunbow character models. I also don’t expect we’re getting redos of Tigertrack and Deep Cover either, even though the more fitting Kingdom Sideswipe/Red Alert mold is now available to use instead of the Siege “Lamborghini” mold.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:28am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So that's incoming updates for Ratchet, Crosshairs, DK-2 Guard and Deseeus Army Drone. The latter three in Selects, I imagine?
I wouldn’t set my heart on any of that, least of all redos of Crosshairs and the Deseeus Drones, since they are based on the Siege mold, which was much better received than the Earthrise mold, and it adds more distinction between SS86 Ironhide and Crosshairs, who traditionally are NOT mold mates With regard to the G1 toys and the Sunbow character models. I also don’t expect we’re getting redos of Tigertrack and Deep Cover either, even though the more fitting Kingdom Sideswipe/Red Alert mold is now available to use instead of the Siege “Lamborghini” mold.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140581)
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:38am CDT
Yeah,he is a bit shorter
But the engineering is pretty great on this guy. There's two layers of panels under his feet. The Earthrise deluxe had partsforming and this toy removes that cheat completely. The only other time we've ever had that accomplished was with the MP.
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 11:38am CDT
Overcracker wrote:Looking better and better.
Seems a tiny bit shorter that Earthrise based on pictures since I don't actually own Earthrise. But looks a but more intricate and with better engineering overall.
So basically a Voyager in the same vein as SS-86 Hot Rod.
Yeah,he is a bit shorter
But the engineering is pretty great on this guy. There's two layers of panels under his feet. The Earthrise deluxe had partsforming and this toy removes that cheat completely. The only other time we've ever had that accomplished was with the MP.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140585)
Posted by Gearslide on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:07pm CDT
Posted by Gearslide on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:07pm CDT
Between this new mold and the supposed new Deluxe Prowl in the works, I would love for an "Important Evil Autobots in mostly Black and White decos" 3 pack with Shattered Glass Ironhide, Prowl, and Jazz.
And while they're at it, maybe a Dual Pack with Shattered Glass Thundercracker and Skywarp perhaps?
And while they're at it, maybe a Dual Pack with Shattered Glass Thundercracker and Skywarp perhaps?
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140586)
Posted by Overcracker on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:08pm CDT
Yeah the panel engineering on the legs and feet looks really well done and compacted.
Posted by Overcracker on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:08pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Overcracker wrote:Looking better and better.
Seems a tiny bit shorter that Earthrise based on pictures since I don't actually own Earthrise. But looks a but more intricate and with better engineering overall.
So basically a Voyager in the same vein as SS-86 Hot Rod.
Yeah,he is a bit shorter
But the engineering is pretty great on this guy. There's two layers of panels under his feet. The Earthrise deluxe had partsforming and this toy removes that cheat completely. The only other time we've ever had that accomplished was with the MP.
Yeah the panel engineering on the legs and feet looks really well done and compacted.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140588)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:14pm CDT
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Posted by Cyber Bishop on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:14pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Finally got my SS 86 Sludge last night. Just a great fig with a surprisingly complicated transformation. His hip joints are loose though....that's the only complaint.
studio-series-86-sludge-upper-leg-fix-t118341.php
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140591)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:22pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:22pm CDT
It's definitely shorter than ER ratchet because that bot's head comes right up to Prime's windows while this new Ironhide only comes up to just under the windows.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140594)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:47pm CDT
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:47pm CDT
Ironhide looks great.
Alt mode: perfect. Hopefully it has a yellow stripe added, but even if it doesn't, that won't he hard to add. Robot mode looks good too, I dont care if it's a little short. Will definitely be getting the ratchet version.
Alt mode: perfect. Hopefully it has a yellow stripe added, but even if it doesn't, that won't he hard to add. Robot mode looks good too, I dont care if it's a little short. Will definitely be getting the ratchet version.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140595)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:50pm CDT
Same
I dont have the ER version
The ER version is expensive
The new version is better
Oil get the 86
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 12:50pm CDT
Tigerhawk7109 wrote:Thing is, I could never find Siege Ironhide or Ratchet. And considering how badly I disliked the ER versions, I think the SS86 is going to be my best bet.
Same
I dont have the ER version
The ER version is expensive
The new version is better
Oil get the 86
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140597)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:20pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:20pm CDT
Where was it that a new Prowl release was rumored?
This is starting to become more prevalent I think/feel, the construction of this new Ironhide closely resembles the cheaper product lines for the budget minded right down to the look of the plastic used. While the internal mechanics might be there in terms of quality/complexity, if the outside doesn't look on par then what's the point? I get that these will never be Masterpiece level quality but for the prices these are selling for these days I'd like a little more attention placed on the outer shells. The gaps and cut lines can really detract from alt modes which is why I very rarely display them that way, in contrast to how the G1 line appeared to look almost seamless when in alt modes. Granted the level of articulation wasn't present back then so there wasn't a compromise needed to fit that aspect into the modes.
While some kids may get these I don't Think it's to the extent everyone thinks, otherwise why bother with the other obvious kid lines? Such as Core Class, or for the Spark line etc. I also don't know that many kids getting $35 action figure type toys when most of them would rather get a smart device or video game. Maybe when a deluxe bot was $16. Heck even when I was a kid getting Transformers was a rare treat due to cost versus Joes or Star Wars figures.
Barricade.it wrote:Studio Series should be the high quality version line of figures for collectors, but the more it goes on, the more it reveals a delusion and Ironhide does not exceptions.
In the alt mode, those huge hinges on the sides of the van are ugly and - as many others have said - lack of yellow stripes is another issue.
I don't think these figures are worthy their price.
This is starting to become more prevalent I think/feel, the construction of this new Ironhide closely resembles the cheaper product lines for the budget minded right down to the look of the plastic used. While the internal mechanics might be there in terms of quality/complexity, if the outside doesn't look on par then what's the point? I get that these will never be Masterpiece level quality but for the prices these are selling for these days I'd like a little more attention placed on the outer shells. The gaps and cut lines can really detract from alt modes which is why I very rarely display them that way, in contrast to how the G1 line appeared to look almost seamless when in alt modes. Granted the level of articulation wasn't present back then so there wasn't a compromise needed to fit that aspect into the modes.
While some kids may get these I don't Think it's to the extent everyone thinks, otherwise why bother with the other obvious kid lines? Such as Core Class, or for the Spark line etc. I also don't know that many kids getting $35 action figure type toys when most of them would rather get a smart device or video game. Maybe when a deluxe bot was $16. Heck even when I was a kid getting Transformers was a rare treat due to cost versus Joes or Star Wars figures.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140598)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:38pm CDT
The Prowl rumours are in Legacy, its not so much a rumour as we have the listing for a new prowl, just that no one knows WHICH Prowl it'll be.
Also hasbro state that Generations is made for both adults and kids in mind.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:38pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:Where was it that a new Prowl release was rumored?Barricade.it wrote:Studio Series should be the high quality version line of figures for collectors, but the more it goes on, the more it reveals a delusion and Ironhide does not exceptions.
In the alt mode, those huge hinges on the sides of the van are ugly and - as many others have said - lack of yellow stripes is another issue.
I don't think these figures are worthy their price.
This is starting to become more prevalent I think/feel, the construction of this new Ironhide closely resembles the cheaper product lines for the budget minded right down to the look of the plastic used. While the internal mechanics might be there in terms of quality/complexity, if the outside doesn't look on par then what's the point? I get that these will never be Masterpiece level quality but for the prices these are selling for these days I'd like a little more attention placed on the outer shells. The gaps and cut lines can really detract from alt modes which is why I very rarely display them that way, in contrast to how the G1 line appeared to look almost seamless when in alt modes. Granted the level of articulation wasn't present back then so there wasn't a compromise needed to fit that aspect into the modes.
While some kids may get these I don't Think it's to the extent everyone thinks, otherwise why bother with the other obvious kid lines? Such as Core Class, or for the Spark line etc. I also don't know that many kids getting $35 action figure type toys when most of them would rather get a smart device or video game. Maybe when a deluxe bot was $16. Heck even when I was a kid getting Transformers was a rare treat due to cost versus Joes or Star Wars figures.
The Prowl rumours are in Legacy, its not so much a rumour as we have the listing for a new prowl, just that no one knows WHICH Prowl it'll be.
Also hasbro state that Generations is made for both adults and kids in mind.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140599)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:38pm CDT
In the newly revealed list of Hasbro Legacy listings. Strangely, everything points to yet another new version of G1 Prowl with no "Package Refresh" or Universe tags (though IDW comics are still possible because the universe tags only seem to designate the character's main origin outside of the toys or cartoons).
SS86 Ironhide finally does the character design justice, after the rocky trip of Universe 2008 to ER. I think I'll live with the visible hinges in vehicle mode, nothing I'm not used to in other toys.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:38pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:Where was it that a new Prowl release was rumored
In the newly revealed list of Hasbro Legacy listings. Strangely, everything points to yet another new version of G1 Prowl with no "Package Refresh" or Universe tags (though IDW comics are still possible because the universe tags only seem to designate the character's main origin outside of the toys or cartoons).
SS86 Ironhide finally does the character design justice, after the rocky trip of Universe 2008 to ER. I think I'll live with the visible hinges in vehicle mode, nothing I'm not used to in other toys.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140600)
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:48pm CDT
More than a rumour, it's fact now:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... jet/47107/
Hasbro literally has kid focus groups for all these so called "collector" figures, they don't have focus groups involving fans. And they provide the numbers (70% of TF toys are bought for kids aged less than 10 years old), letting us know that kids/parents are the majority users/buyers. Older fans can't sustain the brand, and you can see this in any store you go to. Sure, the first batch of figures put up can sell out to fans who want the product NOW, but what about the restocks? Who's gonna buy all those fossilizers, Arcees and Shadow Panthers? Sure as hell aint fans. And the first big price jump we saw was in the TLK line when Hasbro rereleased that Bumblebee no fans asked for. And yet that Bumblebee sold out, even with a second factory run. It was the single best selling TF figure of the year and few fans bought it. Hasbro took note, the next film's entire toyline was made for kids and same goes for the Rise of the Beasts line, at least when initially planned before the date changed. So yeah, we have the numbers, TFs are made and bought for kids.
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:48pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:Where was it that a new Prowl release was rumored?
More than a rumour, it's fact now:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... jet/47107/
While some kids may get these I don't Think it's to the extent everyone thinks, otherwise why bother with the other obvious kid lines? Such as Core Class, or for the Spark line etc. I also don't know that many kids getting $35 action figure type toys when most of them would rather get a smart device or video game. Maybe when a deluxe bot was $16. Heck even when I was a kid getting Transformers was a rare treat due to cost versus Joes or Star Wars figures.
Hasbro literally has kid focus groups for all these so called "collector" figures, they don't have focus groups involving fans. And they provide the numbers (70% of TF toys are bought for kids aged less than 10 years old), letting us know that kids/parents are the majority users/buyers. Older fans can't sustain the brand, and you can see this in any store you go to. Sure, the first batch of figures put up can sell out to fans who want the product NOW, but what about the restocks? Who's gonna buy all those fossilizers, Arcees and Shadow Panthers? Sure as hell aint fans. And the first big price jump we saw was in the TLK line when Hasbro rereleased that Bumblebee no fans asked for. And yet that Bumblebee sold out, even with a second factory run. It was the single best selling TF figure of the year and few fans bought it. Hasbro took note, the next film's entire toyline was made for kids and same goes for the Rise of the Beasts line, at least when initially planned before the date changed. So yeah, we have the numbers, TFs are made and bought for kids.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140601)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:51pm CDT
Will said it better then I did.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 5th, 2022 @ 1:51pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:Where was it that a new Prowl release was rumored?
More than a rumour, it's fact now:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... jet/47107/While some kids may get these I don't Think it's to the extent everyone thinks, otherwise why bother with the other obvious kid lines? Such as Core Class, or for the Spark line etc. I also don't know that many kids getting $35 action figure type toys when most of them would rather get a smart device or video game. Maybe when a deluxe bot was $16. Heck even when I was a kid getting Transformers was a rare treat due to cost versus Joes or Star Wars figures.
Hasbro literally has kid focus groups for all these so called "collector" figures, they don't have focus groups involving fans. And they provide the numbers (70% of TF toys are bought for kids aged less than 10 years old), letting us know that kids/parents are the majority users/buyers. Older fans can't sustain the brand, and you can see this in any store you go to. Sure, the first batch of figures put up can sell out to fans who want the product NOW, but what about the restocks? Who's gonna buy all those fossilizers, Arcees and Shadow Panthers? Sure as hell aint fans. And the first big price jump we saw was in the TLK line when Hasbro rereleased that Bumblebee no fans asked for. And yet that Bumblebee sold out, even with a second factory run. It was the single best selling TF figure of the year and few fans bought it. Hasbro took note, the next film's entire toyline was made for kids and same goes for the Rise of the Beasts line, at least when initially planned before the date changed. So yeah, we have the numbers, TFs are made and bought for kids.
Will said it better then I did.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140602)
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 2:00pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 2:00pm CDT
I think Earthrise Ironhide being rare and not many fans getting him is why people are so nitpicky on this new one. It gives ER Ironhide a special aura and not enough people have him to compare to. But when you take a moment to look at them and truly compare them, this new one is just so much better in all aspects (and it freaken better be, they are using voyager slot budget). People complain about colours not matching when they don't have it in hand yet but I'm wondering if they have the ER one in hand because, man, that one is ROUGH.
And the paint not matching in hand is not even the biggest problem in alt mode for that toy, neither are the egregious feet sticking out (of course, you can spend $15 extra on an upgrade kit bumping the total price you paid into a voyager class price point), it's how mismatched the plastic and design is in general.
We have a big blotch of black plastic in van mode, followed by clear plastic which then connects to an unpainted window. It looks like @SS. The new one is night and day (and then you add the fact that it doesn't partsform)
And the paint not matching in hand is not even the biggest problem in alt mode for that toy, neither are the egregious feet sticking out (of course, you can spend $15 extra on an upgrade kit bumping the total price you paid into a voyager class price point), it's how mismatched the plastic and design is in general.
We have a big blotch of black plastic in van mode, followed by clear plastic which then connects to an unpainted window. It looks like @SS. The new one is night and day (and then you add the fact that it doesn't partsform)
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140604)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 5th, 2022 @ 2:29pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 5th, 2022 @ 2:29pm CDT
Imo this is the definitive Ironhide, at least in terms of a regular release.
I doubt we’ll ever see a voyager release of this guy that looks this good, sans unwanted hinges, tabs, AND have the lower legs taper at the knees like the character model.
This last aspect would be the most significant imo, and even then, I’m not sure it would be enough to warrant another purchase.
My hats off to Hastak for this figure…
Not only did they not take the easy way out & re-pack the ER version, they came up with something new & better.
I doubt we’ll ever see a voyager release of this guy that looks this good, sans unwanted hinges, tabs, AND have the lower legs taper at the knees like the character model.
This last aspect would be the most significant imo, and even then, I’m not sure it would be enough to warrant another purchase.
My hats off to Hastak for this figure…
Not only did they not take the easy way out & re-pack the ER version, they came up with something new & better.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140605)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 5th, 2022 @ 2:44pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 5th, 2022 @ 2:44pm CDT
Yeah the new one is leagues better then ER which looks more like a 5 minute job to convert the Siege mold to an earth alt
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140613)
Posted by DeathReviews on August 5th, 2022 @ 4:10pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on August 5th, 2022 @ 4:10pm CDT
If it's 86 Movie Ironhide, shouldn't they engineer him with a big Fusion Cannon hole in his head?
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140615)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 4:23pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 4:23pm CDT
Okay so with what all was wrong with Seige/ER Ironhide I get doing a new version ground up.
Yet for Prowl I thought the shared ER Bluestreak mold was pretty darn good, fragile windows aside, so why not a simple reissue of that only not using clear plastic this time? I guess because Ironhide is all new people expect Prowl to be as well? And if it's a Generations release then wouldn't a reissue be more likely than new mold?
Seeing these two in the pipeline do tempt me into selling my ER 2pk and hoping I can at least get back half of what I paid. At the same time I don't want to sell it off only to find out I don't like the new version of Prowl. lol
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:In the newly revealed list of Hasbro Legacy listings. Strangely, everything points to yet another new version of G1 Prowl with no "Package Refresh" or Universe tags (though IDW comics are still possible because the universe tags only seem to designate the character's main origin outside of the toys or cartoons).
Yet for Prowl I thought the shared ER Bluestreak mold was pretty darn good, fragile windows aside, so why not a simple reissue of that only not using clear plastic this time? I guess because Ironhide is all new people expect Prowl to be as well? And if it's a Generations release then wouldn't a reissue be more likely than new mold?
Seeing these two in the pipeline do tempt me into selling my ER 2pk and hoping I can at least get back half of what I paid. At the same time I don't want to sell it off only to find out I don't like the new version of Prowl. lol
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140626)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 5th, 2022 @ 5:30pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 5th, 2022 @ 5:30pm CDT
Yeah I'd wait on selling Prowl, so far all we know about that Prowl listing is that it isn't a direct rerelease, so it could be a retooled/new G1 Prowl (gross) or it could be any other Prowl.Till-all-R1 wrote:Okay so with what all was wrong with Seige/ER Ironhide I get doing a new version ground up.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:In the newly revealed list of Hasbro Legacy listings. Strangely, everything points to yet another new version of G1 Prowl with no "Package Refresh" or Universe tags (though IDW comics are still possible because the universe tags only seem to designate the character's main origin outside of the toys or cartoons).
Yet for Prowl I thought the shared ER Bluestreak mold was pretty darn good, fragile windows aside, so why not a simple reissue of that only not using clear plastic this time? I guess because Ironhide is all new people expect Prowl to be as well? And if it's a Generations release then wouldn't a reissue be more likely than new mold?
Seeing these two in the pipeline do tempt me into selling my ER 2pk and hoping I can at least get back half of what I paid. At the same time I don't want to sell it off only to find out I don't like the new version of Prowl. lol
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140642)
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 7:07pm CDT
Keep the toys. Their limited supply will always make them keep some worth.
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2022 @ 7:07pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:Okay so with what all was wrong with Seige/ER Ironhide I get doing a new version ground up.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:In the newly revealed list of Hasbro Legacy listings. Strangely, everything points to yet another new version of G1 Prowl with no "Package Refresh" or Universe tags (though IDW comics are still possible because the universe tags only seem to designate the character's main origin outside of the toys or cartoons).
Yet for Prowl I thought the shared ER Bluestreak mold was pretty darn good, fragile windows aside, so why not a simple reissue of that only not using clear plastic this time? I guess because Ironhide is all new people expect Prowl to be as well? And if it's a Generations release then wouldn't a reissue be more likely than new mold?
Seeing these two in the pipeline do tempt me into selling my ER 2pk and hoping I can at least get back half of what I paid. At the same time I don't want to sell it off only to find out I don't like the new version of Prowl. lol
Keep the toys. Their limited supply will always make them keep some worth.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140645)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 5th, 2022 @ 7:52pm CDT
Agreed... Knowing I'm getting SS86 Ironhide, I still plan on keeping the ER version.
Here's my guess for this new Legacy Prowl--
If this would've been a listing for a Prowl in the SS86 line, then imo that would strongly point towards a brand-new mold like this new Ironhide.
But because this will be the second year of Legacy, along with the ER Datsun mold being used plenty already, I'm assuming it's going to represent something outside of G1.
Oh, also because a new mold for Prowl would open the door for using said mold for all of the other Datsun bros... And is Hastak really going to recycle all of them this soon??
It's a valid point though that without some series/universe name within the listing, a G1 version isn't completely out of the question.
And who knows, since Hastak can do whatever they want. A new G1 Prowl that coulda shoulda woulda been included in SS86 may easily have been switched to the main Legacy line.
I know it would seem unnecessary, but then I think to some of the major changes Hastak has made recently...
SS86 Kup in the Buzzworthy line being more accurate than his original SS86 release... The only SS86 Cliffjumper being released in the Buzzworthy line... Override and Cosmos starting as retools but being changed to brand-new molds... I still think Kickback's chestplate was originally going to be spring-loaded; there's absolutely no reason for those relatively large pins at the base of that piece... People have talked about pins costing money both in terms of the material and the manufacturing; well that was one hell of a waste of both just to help hold that piece in place. So there's a substantial change that truly impacted the production aspect of a figure.
And then of course this new SS86 Ironhide. It's not super common for a character outside of OP, Megs, Bee, or SS to be given multiple versions that include a new mold within such a short timespan.
So again, who knows... My gut feeling could be 100% wrong. With an IDW Blurr out now, maybe they'll do the same here with Prowl.
If it is a new G1 version, and it's as relatively good as this new Ironhide, then a lot of people will be happy, no matter the packaging.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 5th, 2022 @ 7:52pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:Okay so with what all was wrong with Seige/ER Ironhide I get doing a new version ground up.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:In the newly revealed list of Hasbro Legacy listings. Strangely, everything points to yet another new version of G1 Prowl with no "Package Refresh" or Universe tags (though IDW comics are still possible because the universe tags only seem to designate the character's main origin outside of the toys or cartoons).
Yet for Prowl I thought the shared ER Bluestreak mold was pretty darn good, fragile windows aside, so why not a simple reissue of that only not using clear plastic this time? I guess because Ironhide is all new people expect Prowl to be as well? And if it's a Generations release then wouldn't a reissue be more likely than new mold?
Seeing these two in the pipeline do tempt me into selling my ER 2pk and hoping I can at least get back half of what I paid. At the same time I don't want to sell it off only to find out I don't like the new version of Prowl. lol
Keep the toys. Their limited supply will always make them keep some worth.
Agreed... Knowing I'm getting SS86 Ironhide, I still plan on keeping the ER version.
Here's my guess for this new Legacy Prowl--
If this would've been a listing for a Prowl in the SS86 line, then imo that would strongly point towards a brand-new mold like this new Ironhide.
But because this will be the second year of Legacy, along with the ER Datsun mold being used plenty already, I'm assuming it's going to represent something outside of G1.
Oh, also because a new mold for Prowl would open the door for using said mold for all of the other Datsun bros... And is Hastak really going to recycle all of them this soon??
It's a valid point though that without some series/universe name within the listing, a G1 version isn't completely out of the question.
And who knows, since Hastak can do whatever they want. A new G1 Prowl that coulda shoulda woulda been included in SS86 may easily have been switched to the main Legacy line.
I know it would seem unnecessary, but then I think to some of the major changes Hastak has made recently...
SS86 Kup in the Buzzworthy line being more accurate than his original SS86 release... The only SS86 Cliffjumper being released in the Buzzworthy line... Override and Cosmos starting as retools but being changed to brand-new molds... I still think Kickback's chestplate was originally going to be spring-loaded; there's absolutely no reason for those relatively large pins at the base of that piece... People have talked about pins costing money both in terms of the material and the manufacturing; well that was one hell of a waste of both just to help hold that piece in place. So there's a substantial change that truly impacted the production aspect of a figure.
And then of course this new SS86 Ironhide. It's not super common for a character outside of OP, Megs, Bee, or SS to be given multiple versions that include a new mold within such a short timespan.
So again, who knows... My gut feeling could be 100% wrong. With an IDW Blurr out now, maybe they'll do the same here with Prowl.
If it is a new G1 version, and it's as relatively good as this new Ironhide, then a lot of people will be happy, no matter the packaging.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140648)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 5th, 2022 @ 8:34pm CDT
Oh hardy, Har, har. That cut deep.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 5th, 2022 @ 8:34pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:If it's 86 Movie Ironhide, shouldn't they engineer him with a big Fusion Cannon hole in his head?
Oh hardy, Har, har. That cut deep.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140650)
Posted by Emerje on August 5th, 2022 @ 8:58pm CDT
Word is the mold actually does have that part tied to it.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 5th, 2022 @ 8:58pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:DeathReviews wrote:If it's 86 Movie Ironhide, shouldn't they engineer him with a big Fusion Cannon hole in his head?
Oh hardy, Har, har. That cut deep.
Word is the mold actually does have that part tied to it.
Emerje
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140654)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:30pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:30pm CDT
Good point about Prowl, with my G1 focus I often forget that it could totally be from another source. So it could very well be from RID, Energon or even Animated Prowl considering they have a similar looking mold in Flamewar/Road Rocket.
I know they'd likely never do it but I'd be down for a revisit of the Titanium version of him as a Cybertronic Hover car from War Within Comic.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Titaniumtoy_ww_prowl.jpg
I know they'd likely never do it but I'd be down for a revisit of the Titanium version of him as a Cybertronic Hover car from War Within Comic.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Titaniumtoy_ww_prowl.jpg
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140656)
Posted by Emerje on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:34pm CDT
I mean, if the rumor is true about the War for Cybertron game getting figures in Studio Series then nothing is impossible.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:34pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:I know they'd likely never do it but I'd be down for a revisit of the Titanium version of him as a Cybertronic Hover car from War Within Comic.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Titaniumtoy_ww_prowl.jpg
I mean, if the rumor is true about the War for Cybertron game getting figures in Studio Series then nothing is impossible.
Emerje
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140657)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:41pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2022 @ 10:41pm CDT
We should probably continue the Prowl talk in the Legacy thread since it's a Legacy figure, rather than SS86.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140664)
Posted by DaveTheRave137 on August 6th, 2022 @ 7:28am CDT
Hasbro do have focus groups for adult collectors, I have been to several. Years ago I had this argument, that adult collectors make the bulk of the sales. When kids are bought transformers it’s usualy due to a parent who is a fan.
Ask yourself when have you ever seen a child in the transformers isle screaming at there arent to get them the latest transformer. In fact when have you ever seen a kid in the transformers isle. And look how G1 orientated the line has become. Do you know why, it’s becuase of the adult fan base. Transformers was not a fad for many of us. Do you know how many girls have been back to mine and gone crazy over the collection I used to have. Transformers G1 made a big impression, but alot of it was in our inagination, so now that the toys are being produced that we were promised by the artwork on the box, it’s no surprise that so many adults are fullfilling there childhood dreams. And why are kids going to buy into michael bay amd the other vrap being offered when they have playstations. G2 was an insult and inunderstand nostalgia but anyone who actualy thought putting a sticker saying laser, akin to batman biff baff, well lets agree to dissagree. G1 had adult themed alt modes and we were presented with that, kids today are presented with michael bay, with designs that are disgusting, oh wow look how intractar the transformation is, Im not even going to debate with anyone who thinks michael bay transformers are aesthetically pleasing, But show me this kid fan base for transformers, if you can then id be worried
Posted by DaveTheRave137 on August 6th, 2022 @ 7:28am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:Where was it that a new Prowl release was rumored?
More than a rumour, it's fact now:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... jet/47107/While some kids may get these I don't Think it's to the extent everyone thinks, otherwise why bother with the other obvious kid lines? Such as Core Class, or for the Spark line etc. I also don't know that many kids getting $35 action figure type toys when most of them would rather get a smart device or video game. Maybe when a deluxe bot was $16. Heck even when I was a kid getting Transformers was a rare treat due to cost versus Joes or Star Wars figures.
Hasbro literally has kid focus groups for all these so called "collector" figures, they don't have focus groups involving fans. And they provide the numbers (70% of TF toys are bought for kids aged less than 10 years old), letting us know that kids/parents are the majority users/buyers. Older fans can't sustain the brand, and you can see this in any store you go to. Sure, the first batch of figures put up can sell out to fans who want the product NOW, but what about the restocks? Who's gonna buy all those fossilizers, Arcees and Shadow Panthers? Sure as hell aint fans. And the first big price jump we saw was in the TLK line when Hasbro rereleased that Bumblebee no fans asked for. And yet that Bumblebee sold out, even with a second factory run. It was the single best selling TF figure of the year and few fans bought it. Hasbro took note, the next film's entire toyline was made for kids and same goes for the Rise of the Beasts line, at least when initially planned before the date changed. So yeah, we have the numbers, TFs are made and bought for kids.
Will said it better then I did.
Hasbro do have focus groups for adult collectors, I have been to several. Years ago I had this argument, that adult collectors make the bulk of the sales. When kids are bought transformers it’s usualy due to a parent who is a fan.
Ask yourself when have you ever seen a child in the transformers isle screaming at there arent to get them the latest transformer. In fact when have you ever seen a kid in the transformers isle. And look how G1 orientated the line has become. Do you know why, it’s becuase of the adult fan base. Transformers was not a fad for many of us. Do you know how many girls have been back to mine and gone crazy over the collection I used to have. Transformers G1 made a big impression, but alot of it was in our inagination, so now that the toys are being produced that we were promised by the artwork on the box, it’s no surprise that so many adults are fullfilling there childhood dreams. And why are kids going to buy into michael bay amd the other vrap being offered when they have playstations. G2 was an insult and inunderstand nostalgia but anyone who actualy thought putting a sticker saying laser, akin to batman biff baff, well lets agree to dissagree. G1 had adult themed alt modes and we were presented with that, kids today are presented with michael bay, with designs that are disgusting, oh wow look how intractar the transformation is, Im not even going to debate with anyone who thinks michael bay transformers are aesthetically pleasing, But show me this kid fan base for transformers, if you can then id be worried
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140673)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 6th, 2022 @ 1:17pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 6th, 2022 @ 1:17pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:If it's 86 Movie Ironhide, shouldn't they engineer him with a big Fusion Cannon hole in his head?
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140685)
Posted by Dominus Prime on August 6th, 2022 @ 3:03pm CDT
Posted by Dominus Prime on August 6th, 2022 @ 3:03pm CDT
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140691)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 6th, 2022 @ 3:34pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 6th, 2022 @ 3:34pm CDT
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140701)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 6th, 2022 @ 5:30pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 6th, 2022 @ 5:30pm CDT
Just watched the review of Ironhide. And this is the closest they've come to a good ironhide I think. They've almost nailed him. He's pretty okay and far better than previous Ironhides. I like the engineering and transformation a lot, I like his big forearms and fists. The robot mode is clean and looks good, the van is almost great. Just too plain of a paintjob on the van. And he's too short for my liking, I like to think of ironhide as a bigger bot, only slightly shorter than Optimus but more stocky. He's a brawler after all, and autobots have enough deluxe-sized bots in their ranks.
If there's an upgrade kit giving this guy an idw style head and a bunch of weapons I'll consider it, but otherwise I'll wait for when they really nail this guy who knows how many years from now. I'd say I'll wait on ratchet like most others, but I really like the prime and tf:animated designs of ratchet and would rather wait for one of them to get a figure to be my definitive ratchet
But for those that have been wanting a better ironhide and skipped ER, hopefully this one is pretty exciting
If there's an upgrade kit giving this guy an idw style head and a bunch of weapons I'll consider it, but otherwise I'll wait for when they really nail this guy who knows how many years from now. I'd say I'll wait on ratchet like most others, but I really like the prime and tf:animated designs of ratchet and would rather wait for one of them to get a figure to be my definitive ratchet
But for those that have been wanting a better ironhide and skipped ER, hopefully this one is pretty exciting
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140705)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 6th, 2022 @ 6:12pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 6th, 2022 @ 6:12pm CDT
Just watched the review as well.
I'm completely sold on this figure.
And yes, I would've appreciated him being a little bigger (not even that much), but that is a small nitpick.
After I transform him a few times, he'll be in bot mode for a long, long, long time.
The hollow fists are kind of odd, but again, even a combination of a few things that I could wish were better don't begin to sink this ship.
I'm more than okay with him being a bit shorter than Grapple and Inferno, and even Hoist...
The more variety among my Autobot figures, the better.
Which is part of the reason I'm really wanting Cosmos.
And having such a clean, greeble-free, appearance... This is how I want all supposed-to-be-G1-styled figures to look.
And since this version is going to be widely available, I would definitely say it will be quite a while before we see another G1 Ironhide that's even as good as this one.
In terms of the bot mode, this one is going to be very difficult to top.
Bring on SS86 Ratchet!!
I'm completely sold on this figure.
And yes, I would've appreciated him being a little bigger (not even that much), but that is a small nitpick.
After I transform him a few times, he'll be in bot mode for a long, long, long time.
The hollow fists are kind of odd, but again, even a combination of a few things that I could wish were better don't begin to sink this ship.
I'm more than okay with him being a bit shorter than Grapple and Inferno, and even Hoist...
The more variety among my Autobot figures, the better.
Which is part of the reason I'm really wanting Cosmos.
And having such a clean, greeble-free, appearance... This is how I want all supposed-to-be-G1-styled figures to look.
And since this version is going to be widely available, I would definitely say it will be quite a while before we see another G1 Ironhide that's even as good as this one.
In terms of the bot mode, this one is going to be very difficult to top.
Bring on SS86 Ratchet!!
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140711)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 6th, 2022 @ 7:09pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 6th, 2022 @ 7:09pm CDT
While I also like height diversity I feel he should at least be as tall as Hoist, I always associated Hide as Prime's lieutenant thus think he should be in that realm rather than the same height as the Datsun bros.
Interestingly enough I always found the heights of certain figures very odd, Blaster is a boombox but is considerably taller than Cosmos, a Spaceship! lol Or Preceptor for that matter, when's the last time you saw a microscope the same size as a Jeep. Also Powerglide is a very tiny Plane for an A-10. That's one of the biggest reasons I don't bother with displaying them in alt modes, other than potentially the cars that appear to be in scale to each other.
Interestingly enough I always found the heights of certain figures very odd, Blaster is a boombox but is considerably taller than Cosmos, a Spaceship! lol Or Preceptor for that matter, when's the last time you saw a microscope the same size as a Jeep. Also Powerglide is a very tiny Plane for an A-10. That's one of the biggest reasons I don't bother with displaying them in alt modes, other than potentially the cars that appear to be in scale to each other.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140712)
Posted by Emerje on August 6th, 2022 @ 7:50pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 6th, 2022 @ 7:50pm CDT
I get that the engineering bumps him up to Voyager, but size is just too far out of scale. Even the previous deluxe figures weren't really the right height, but they were still pretty tall for the price class. I don't think I could be happy with any excuse anyone could imagine up for making him this small at this price point. I don't think expecting him to be the same size as Grapple is wanting too much, not when they've already cut so many corners by giving him just one accessory and completely hollowing out his hands.
Between Ironhide and Override I'm not at all happy with the direction Voyagers are taking, not when they keep giving us less and less and asking us to pay more and more. At least with Override you can say they'll probably only get one use out of the mold so they have to offset the cost, but we know that wont be true with Ironhide.
Emerje
Between Ironhide and Override I'm not at all happy with the direction Voyagers are taking, not when they keep giving us less and less and asking us to pay more and more. At least with Override you can say they'll probably only get one use out of the mold so they have to offset the cost, but we know that wont be true with Ironhide.
Emerje
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140715)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2022 @ 8:31pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2022 @ 8:31pm CDT
Blame it all on the sizes of their original G1 toys, specifically those originally from the Micro Change line.Till-all-R1 wrote:Interestingly enough I always found the heights of certain figures very odd, Blaster is a boombox but is considerably taller than Cosmos, a Spaceship! lol Or Preceptor for that matter, when's the last time you saw a microscope the same size as a Jeep. Also Powerglide is a very tiny Plane for an A-10. That's one of the biggest reasons I don't bother with displaying them in alt modes, other than potentially the cars that appear to be in scale to each other.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140717)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 6th, 2022 @ 10:28pm CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 6th, 2022 @ 10:28pm CDT
Looking at the video now. Wow, he's short. It he the shortest voyager we've got so far? I wonder how his parts count compare to older TFs.
This is the last Ironhide I'll ever get. Vehicle mode has some flaws, but I can live with them.
This is the last Ironhide I'll ever get. Vehicle mode has some flaws, but I can live with them.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140718)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 6th, 2022 @ 10:34pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 6th, 2022 @ 10:34pm CDT
I may have an unpopular opinion, but all that clear plastics everywhere worries me. Especially so many JOINTS are clear. Plus that clear plastic painted red over just won't color match anything.
There should have been NO clear parts at all with the windows painted a kind of blue instead. It would have been even more "cartoon accurate" and it would have been more solid.
There should have been NO clear parts at all with the windows painted a kind of blue instead. It would have been even more "cartoon accurate" and it would have been more solid.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140719)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 6th, 2022 @ 10:37pm CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 6th, 2022 @ 10:37pm CDT
Yeah, but then they'd have to shell out for more paint right? Can't have that 
Maybe some clear plastics are okay? My Classics Bee and Prime are both still good.
Maybe some clear plastics are okay? My Classics Bee and Prime are both still good.
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140720)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 6th, 2022 @ 10:41pm CDT
There is no excuses when they pulled "no clear plastics" SS86 Kup and Kingdom Cliffjumper for the Buzzworthy line.
So why not make it this way from the very start?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 6th, 2022 @ 10:41pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Yeah, but then they'd have to shell out for more paint right? Can't have that
There is no excuses when they pulled "no clear plastics" SS86 Kup and Kingdom Cliffjumper for the Buzzworthy line.
So why not make it this way from the very start?
Re: More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height (2140723)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2022 @ 11:28pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2022 @ 11:28pm CDT
Unless Takara goes and makes a Premium Finish redeco.Gauntlet101010 wrote:This is the last Ironhide I'll ever get.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people who speak in favor of translucent windows wouldn't do so as much if the original Diaclone molds had had opaque windows from the get-go instead.-Kanrabat- wrote:I may have an unpopular opinion, but all that clear plastics everywhere worries me. Especially so many JOINTS are clear. Plus that clear plastic painted red over just won't color match anything.
There should have been NO clear parts at all with the windows painted a kind of blue instead. It would have been even more "cartoon accurate" and it would have been more solid.
