New Gallery: Generations Combiner Wars Ultra Prime

Meh...

Optimus Thundercrotch!

No shots of his closed God Jinrai-esque chest?

... ... .

Why.....?

The figures look great and all, but this is the strangest Transformers toyline in all of history.

Can't wait to have this whole line!

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:The figures look great and all, but this is the strangest Transformers toyline in all of history.

Have you ever seen Action Masters? Transformers that don't transform? I'll go nuttier, and suggest you to look up Action Master Elites: Transformers that don't transform... that can transform.

Still on the fence with Prime, but I'll probably end up getting either a repaint (We can haz Thunderclash?) or his mold-mate Motormaster.

AAAAAAA MY EYES! MY EYES!

This is one FUGLY Transformer.

This is... definitely not an ideal combiner torso. It's kinda made worse by having menasor's chest space but nothing particularly good to attach to the nipples of combination and it just looks kinda dumb with the open chest cavity like that. I know it's kind of set up to homage energon prime in this configuration, but it gets about the same reaction from me as that toy too. I think it has some potential if we can get some more color coordinated limbs though

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Have you ever seen Action Masters? Transformers that don't transform? I'll go nuttier, and suggest you to look up Action Master Elites: Transformers that don't transform... that can transform.

This made me went to my collection and review the Actionmasters - they are actually not too bad - it was an attempt to "G.I.Joe-fy"/M.A.S.K.-fy the Transformers, which is something I would commend Hasbro in trying something new and "dangerous". Sure, they weren't great or even sane. for that matter, but it was an attempt in doing something different.

This Combiner Wars Optimus is exactly the opposite of that spirit - this is Hasbro's way of playing it safe and secure their bottom line by exploiting the willingness of Optimus Prime worshippers to buy anything that resembles their idol when there is a rich history and universe of Transformers characters they could had easily use, or create a new character altogether to add to that rich history and universe.

Then again, that would make sense - we can't expect Hasbro to be brilliant all the time.

I like the Optimus figure. In a toy line that has already broken so many G1 rules I don't really understand why so many fans are so strongly against Optimus Prime as a combiner. Who cares if he didn't do it in the cartoon or comic books? Or for that matter, why care at all? There are only so many options they could go with for reusing the Motormaster mold. Sorry, but Hasbro isn't about to make an obscure character like Thunderclash as a Voyager, otherwise we wouldn't be getting Leader class Thundercracker.

That said, I do sometimes have a hard time looking at the combined mode and not seeing Optimus Maximus.

Emerje

The figure would probably look better if it had its chest doors closed.

thats what I've been thinking. Menasor has blackjack to fill in the gap, but as we've seen, windcharger doesn't do it with quite the same grace... actually I think thundercracker is the best cover for open primechest we've seen.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:The figures look great and all, but this is the strangest Transformers toyline in all of history.

Have you ever seen Action Masters? Transformers that don't transform? I'll go nuttier, and suggest you to look up Action Master Elites: Transformers that don't transform... that can transform.

Nope. Combiner Wars is worse than the Action Masters. By the way, Action Master Elites are still, Action Masters.

Blah, blah and blah. The deluxes all look solid. The connections look like they lock nice and tight. The final product screams Superion. Yeah, I'm in. Menasor still looks like a mess but I'm curious to see what can be done with him. Love the idea of Prime as Thunderclash. Slap a more appropriate head on there and I'm down. Most excited or interested I've been in official product for years.

the prime torso isnt as great, but its still neat. and im drooling over the thought of takaras version...

yeah it would look better if the chest was closed or a figure filling in that cavity like was shown in previous photos https://40.media.tumblr.com/6f25531a4b6 ... o1_500.jpg
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Pretty sure it's supposed to be closed for Ultra Prime and open for Menasor.

Anyone try sticking a Powerglide in there? If there's a way to rig it up it would probably look pretty good.

Emerje

So... Yeah.

When I first saw this, I thoght the truck looked too bubble-esque. Bt the more I looked at it, I liked this version of Prime.

And then this happened. I REALLY don't like the way the torso looks. With the chest open, yo have massize flaps,with it closed, well, we don't have picures, but I am guessing it sticks out a ways due to the depth of the flap. People are right, this cold be a really good homage to Energon, Prime's not bad, the guns are cool, the Ultra Prime/Omega Prime (seriously, all the RIDs running around and Hasbro couldn't have reused that?) head sculpt is awesome and reminds me of the ears on Primal, but the combiner torso is hideously off proportion.

Continuing the high definition galleries covering the released Transformers Generations Combiner Wars figures, we now bring you the Combiner Wars Legends Class galleries featuring Generations Combiner Wars Powerglide, Generations Combiner Wars Bombshell, Generations Combiner Wars Windcharger, and Generations Combiner Wars Thundercracker.

Click on any image to check out the respective high definition gallery! They include poses and comparison shots with Classics, Generations, and their respective G1 toys!

Generations Combiner Wars Powerglide (Aerialbots, Combiners, Legends Class)











Generations Combiner Wars Bombshell (Insecticons, Legends Class)










Generations Combiner Wars Windcharger (Legends Class)










Generations Combiner Wars Thundercracker (Legends Class)

Thundercracker is who that mold should have been all along.

Sabrblade wrote:Thundercracker is who that mold should have been all along.

Would you say the same about the Jetfire mold?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Thundercracker is who that mold should have been all along.

Would you say the same about the Jetfire mold?

Nah, they had to heavily remold the thing pull that off. But the end result of that is cool, too.

But the Legends figure, that's straight up Guido Guidi Thundercracker.

I wonder if Takara is planning a premium 3 pack of the Insecticons. I could go for that once Kickback is released (assuming we are getting him too). I also wouldn't mind the Diaclone color scheme as well!

Seibertron wrote:I wonder if Takara is planning a premium 3 pack of the Insecticons. I could go for that once Kickback is released (assuming we are getting him too). I also wouldn't mind the Diaclone color scheme as well!

I like both of those ideas.

The Diaclone one especially could serve triple duty as Diaclone homages, e-HOBBY Insecticon clones, and SG Insecticons.

Aw, you didn't try to connect any of them to Prime's chest.

Also, in our first looks at Superion they had Powerglide stuck to the top of his gun. Is that actually possible or was it just more superglue like the rest of the combined figure?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Aw, you didn't try to connect any of them to Prime's chest.

Also, in our first looks at Superion they had Powerglide stuck to the top of his gun. Is that actually possible or was it just more superglue like the rest of the combined figure?

Emerje

I wasn't aware that any of the Legends Class figures truly could become part of Prime's chest other than Blackjack for Menasor.

Is Powerglide able to combine with Superion's gun? Not sure ... I can check it out though!

Superion's shield thing part of the gun has a 5mm port on the top, so you could probably stick Powerglide there... might try it later

EDIT: ok it works, but is too heavy for the elbows to hold out straight (at least on Skydive)

Hmmm, why no weapons? They've got the 5 mm ports in their fists.

Cobalt Prime wrote:Hmmm, why no weapons? They've got the 5 mm ports in their fists.

Well, Powerglide turns into a weapon, Thundercracker has his null rays, Bombshell has cannons on his fists, but Windcharger's got excuse (unless one counts his magnetic powers).

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobalt Prime wrote:Hmmm, why no weapons? They've got the 5 mm ports in their fists.

Well, Powerglide turns into a weapon, Thundercracker has his null rays, Bombshell has cannons on his fists, but Windcharger's got excuse (unless one counts his magnetic powers).

Stranger is that Huffer and Blackjack both have weapons included. Weird.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobalt Prime wrote:Hmmm, why no weapons? They've got the 5 mm ports in their fists.

Well, Powerglide turns into a weapon, Thundercracker has his null rays, Bombshell has cannons on his fists, but Windcharger's got excuse (unless one counts his magnetic powers).

Stranger is that Huffer and Blackjack both have weapons included. Weird.

Well, Huffer's got Optimus's rifle since Optimus had two weapons. And Blackjack's weapon plays a part in his forming Menasor's chestplate.

Looking at Bombshell's fists and knees, does it look to anyone else that he was intended to be a targetmaster weapon of a gestalt?

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Thundercracker is who that mold should have been all along.

Would you say the same about the Jetfire mold?

Nah, they had to heavily remold the thing pull that off. But the end result of that is cool, too.

But the Legends figure, that's straight up Guido Guidi Thundercracker.

So true! its an amazing rendition of the artwork. We have been accustomed to this design being Thundercracker for a little while now and frankly he owns this mold/form. Even the Jetfire retool looks great. I will certainly be picking up both.

padfoo wrote:So true! its an amazing rendition of the artwork. We have been accustomed to this design being Thundercracker for a little while now and frankly he owns this mold/form. Even the Jetfire retool looks great. I will certainly be picking up both.

Indeed. IDW has made its version of G1 Thundercracker so compelling that I want both the Legend and the Leader.

Honorable 'Cons are always cool.

Seibertron.com is proud to present our newest galleries: Combiner Wars Blackjack and Huffer!

Blackjack is an all new mold in the Legends Class size, meant to be incorporated into the combined form of Menasor, as the chest piece armor. (Because Motormaster shares his mold with Optimus Prime, Prime's chest can also use Blackjack.) Whether he's just a piece of chest armor, a really killer looking vehicle, or just a robot with a bad attitude, Blackjack is a little Decepticon packin' quite a punch.

His wave mate, Huffer, is a slight remold and extensive redeco of the Generations Legends Class Optimus Prime. Unfortunately, Huffer does not come with a partner robot like Optimus did. Both figures are currently shipping from overseas retailers, trickling into US e-tailers and should be at retail very shortly.

Will you be adding them to your collection? Check out their galleries by clicking on the images below, then come back to forums to share your thoughts with us!

Generations Combiner Wars Blackjack








Generations Combiner Wars Huffer









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I'm liking these little dudes!

Looks like Blackjack's combiner ports are the standard 5mm.

While I like the size i hate Blackjack's head. I wish they used the Rodimus head. I hate faceplates.

Just curious how you get these so early ? Do you pay those crazy ebay prices from Chinese sellers with factory hook ups ?

Windsweeper wrote:While I like the size i hate Blackjack's head. I wish they used the Rodimus head. I hate faceplates.

I thought I heard that the figure was originally supposed to be Runabout, (the head and chest do match him better), but was changed at the last minute. I'm glad they made him Blackjack, but yeah, I wish they would've went with a different face.

I'm still waiting for the first wave...

Windsweeper wrote:While I like the size i hate Blackjack's head. I wish they used the Rodimus head. I hate faceplates.

Oddly enough, I like faceplates. Whether or not this was supposed to be Runamuck, I'm glad it's Blackjack instead.

I am really digging Blackjack. I'd still love to see a repaint in red as Chase...I'll probably keep saying that until it happens too!

Huffer is an easy pass for me...there is just something about that figure that I am not into. The PCC version still works great for my collection.

I'm totes getting Blackjack, but only to beef up the Decepticon Legends' ranks, since it's been found that Menasor's torso still looks like it has the car-chestplate-thing. That, and I'm hoping Blackjack's axe is capable of forming a proper hilt for Menasor's sword.

I was thinking about Huffer, but... I think if I see him in-stores, I'd probably get him. But, as it stands, I don't need a third version of this mold, even if it's the most adorable thing ever.

Mkall wrote:

Windsweeper wrote:While I like the size i hate Blackjack's head. I wish they used the Rodimus head. I hate faceplates.

Oddly enough, I like faceplates. Whether or not this was supposed to be Runamuck, I'm glad it's Blackjack instead.

As you can tell, I'm a faceplate kind of guy, myself.

rager is still my huffer representative in my C/G minobots line-up, but ill still get CW huffer since i never actually got the original legends prime. still curious about the mold.

If that truck grill on Huffer's back could have come up just a little higher, he could have had at least a nod to the original "hood."

As the first Leader class figures start appearing at retail, let us not forget about Generations Combiner Wars wave 1 in its entirety - specifically, the Voyager Optimus Prime (possibly) retool and redeco, leader of the Stunticons and main part of gestalt combiner Menasor: Motormaster!

The new Voyager figure is allegedly intended as the Decepticon counterpart to Superion in the upcoming IDW comics event Combiner Wars, though only one of the limbs is currently available for purchase, Dragstrip. It also comes with a gun and sword - which can be combined into a larger sword, new headsculpts for robot and gestalt mode, and is compatible with most Legend and Deluxe class figures from the line. Click on any image below for the full gallery!

Generations Combiner Wars Motormaster

i love his bot mode. combiner mode looks off, but im confident those legs can be tweaked to make him look less dwarf'y.