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New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets

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Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, and regular YouTube toy reviewer, Chuckdawg1999, has let us know that he's reviewed two of the many Amazon Exclusives for the Earthrise line, Autobot Alliance and the Paradron Medics sets!

The Autobot Alliance set includes Deluxe Class Earth mode Ironhide and Earthmode Prowl. Prowl is a redeco of Earthrise Deluxe Class Smokescreen, while Ironhide is a retooled version of his Siege mode, adding a big shield to done as his van roof. The Paradron Medics set is part of the Galactic Odyssey series of Amazom Exclusives, and features Deluxe Class Ratchet and Lifeline. Ratchet is a redeco of Earth mode Ironhide with a new head. Lifeline is a straight redeco of Earthrise Deluxe Class Arcee. Lifeline is not part of the review below, which focuses on Ironhide, Prowl and Ratchet.

Check what Chuck has to say:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Finally! After having the date pushed up, then back, then who knows when you're getting it, Amazon delivered my Autobot Alliance set. Having gotten the Galaxy Odyssey Paradron Medic set a week prior were able to compare and enjoy the Nissan van family of Ironhide and Ratchet, out of order. Having been able to enjoy the Earthrise Datsun brothers car mold twice already Prowl feels a little flat, but I was surprised at how tight everything came together. This was supposed to be our first experience with the mold after all. Good luck getting the sets if you're trying, don't give in, and don't pay the mark-up prices.


We have embedded his review below for your convenience:



What do you think about these figures? Were you lucky enough to avoid delays in getting them? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090111)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 17th, 2020 @ 8:32am CST
Now that I have obtained Spinout and Cordon, here are the Siege/Earthrise/Selects/Amazon lambros all together

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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090143)
Posted by Deadput on December 17th, 2020 @ 3:38pm CST
With that many different versions the Lambros make for great "Autotrooper-like" army fillers for the Autobots.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090233)
Posted by balgorra on December 18th, 2020 @ 9:05am CST
Anyone know if Scorponok is due for a restock? I can't find him anywhere in stock for a decent price.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090234)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 18th, 2020 @ 9:37am CST
I always see the Titans later on. I passed on Scorpy when I first saw him knowing I'd see him again. Just like every other titan.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090235)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 18th, 2020 @ 9:39am CST
If there is enough demand, I would expect him to potentially be re-released some time in 2021 like Omega Supreme was this year.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090253)
Posted by Starseeker on December 18th, 2020 @ 12:29pm CST
Battlecharged and ready!
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090261)
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2020 @ 1:23pm CST
balgorra wrote:Anyone know if Scorponok is due for a restock? I can't find him anywhere in stock for a decent price.


We don't know.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090271)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 18th, 2020 @ 4:10pm CST
Got Ratchet and Lifeline again.

I'm actually happier with Lifeline than I am Arcee. Maybe I like the color blue more than pink. But I think it owes more to her status as a small army builder. I have the club's figure, but this adds and doesn't replace it. To me it's fine that they're a bit different as long as they share the same look.

It almost makes me want to track down another Paradon medic figure. The 3rd Party figure Delicate Warrior had a recolor like that.

Almost. But not really. There's other things I want.

Ratchet is more successful than Ironhide. Mainly because his shoulders are white so they blend in vehicle mode better. Still in need of new feet, though.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090279)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 18th, 2020 @ 7:12pm CST
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Got Ratchet and Lifeline again.

I'm actually happier with Lifeline than I am Arcee. Maybe I like the color blue more than pink. But I think it owes more to her status as a small army builder. I have the club's figure, but this adds and doesn't replace it. To me it's fine that they're a bit different as long as they share the same look.

It almost makes me want to track down another Paradon medic figure. The 3rd Party figure Delicate Warrior had a recolor like that.

Almost. But not really. There's other things I want.


Congrats! I'm glad you were able to get a non-defective set this time. :)

I know what you mean about army building the Paradron Medic too. That's what I decided to do, and why I had extra Ratchet figures to offer. The TFCC Lifeline figure is the leader of that "nursing" unit, and the Lifeline figures from the Galactic Odyssey collection are her generic "troops."
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090285)
Posted by Emerje on December 19th, 2020 @ 12:50am CST
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I always see the Titans later on. I passed on Scorpy when I first saw him knowing I'd see him again. Just like every other titan.

Problem is there's usually a heavy restock every year in time for Black Friday, it even happened with Omega Supreme last year when it looked like he was becoming scarce. That didn't happen this year, very few stores, if any, got a substantial restock past their first supply. Stock could be, perhaps even is likely, held up in shipping thanks to COVID, but I doubt they're doing a second run any time soon, that would have to wait for after they've finished making enough Arks for Kingdom.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090304)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 19th, 2020 @ 8:59am CST
Emerje wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I always see the Titans later on. I passed on Scorpy when I first saw him knowing I'd see him again. Just like every other titan.

Problem is there's usually a heavy restock every year in time for Black Friday, it even happened with Omega Supreme last year when it looked like he was becoming scarce. That didn't happen this year, very few stores, if any, got a substantial restock past their first supply. Stock could be, perhaps even is likely, held up in shipping thanks to COVID, but I doubt they're doing a second run any time soon, that would have to wait for after they've finished making enough Arks for Kingdom.

Emerje

I live in Canada and I've only seen Scorpy in ONE place near me. Haven't seen a Quintesson. Just saw Waves 2 and 3 of ER this month. Things get here slooooooowwwwwwwwwly.

I panicked when Hotlink became scarce elsewhere only to see him shelfwarm. Ditto Skywarp and Thundercracker. Netflix Soundwave is the only one I think I may miss in-person because of extremely high demand.

So I tend to think there'll be more made available somewhere at some time.

I'll wait to hit that panic button until it's well past Scorpy's time.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090368)
Posted by william-james88 on December 20th, 2020 @ 3:58pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote: WilliamJames, what do you think of Earthrise Arcee, now that you bought one on deep discount?


Thanks for asking but I have yet to open it. Still unsure. My first handling of the mold might be Elita 1.


Ok so I handled Elita 1 today and Well... this is the worst deluxe mold I handled within both generations trilogies so far. And no contest on that. The concept of it sucks but what I hate most is that it's not even a clean or intuitive transformation, even with instructions. It's just fit the shit in so that it looks ok in vehicle mode.

And Elita is worse than Arcee since her shoulders make it that articulation is hindered. On a TF toy where the robot mode is valued above all else (and even then I think that mini back pack looks wrong on arcee), making an amateurish mistake like that is inexcusable.

Worst toy of the year. (That's gonna be a category on this year's end of year list)

In any case, I wish you all the best Jake! Have yourself a merry little christmas and make the yuletide gay.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090408)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 21st, 2020 @ 10:19am CST
william-james88 wrote:Ok so I handled Elita 1 today and Well... this is the worst deluxe mold I handled within both generations trilogies so far. And no contest on that. The concept of it sucks but what I hate most is that it's not even a clean or intuitive transformation, even with instructions. It's just fit the **** in so that it looks ok in vehicle mode.

And Elita is worse than Arcee since her shoulders make it that articulation is hindered. On a TF toy where the robot mode is valued above all else (and even then I think that mini back pack looks wrong on arcee), making an amateurish mistake like that is inexcusable.

Worst toy of the year. (That's gonna be a category on this year's end of year list)

In any case, I wish you all the best Jake! Have yourself a merry little christmas and make the yuletide gay.


Earthrise Arcee is definitely the worst Generations mold of the year. I don't collect any of the other lines right now, but I wouldn't be surprised if Earthrise Arcee is the worst Transformer of 2020, period. What's sad is that I have ALL THREE releases of this mold so far: Earthrise Arcee, Netflix Elita One, and the Galactic Odyssey Paradron Medics. Even when there are no QC issues mucking things up (like with my Earthrise Arcee), the mold is just a fail. The plastic of the alt mode feels very thin. The tolerances are terrible. Pieces get in each others' way all the time. Nothing snaps in very securely. Getting the entire robot sufficiently smooshed up into the car shell is almost impossible if you want the car to actually roll on its wheels. It's difficult to get the figure to stand and not fall over at the ankles, even with the backpack removed. There is almost NOTHING about the new Earthrise Arcee figure that is superior to the Thrilling 30 mold. I think they should just reissue the Thrilling 30 mold of Arcee for a Studio Series release or something with a premium, screen accurate paint job (like the Takara Tomy Legends version).
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090409)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 21st, 2020 @ 10:22am CST
I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090418)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 21st, 2020 @ 12:21pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.


That's the million dollar question. I read recently on these boards that Hasbro and Takara Tomy might have tried to use some of the "Arcee Prime" engineering that was developed should she have won the Power of the Primes fan poll for the next Prime. That's just an anecdote without proper citation, though.

The real head scratcher now is why they would bother to re-release Earthrise Arcee in Kingdom. If they wanted to reissue another Deluxe sized character to fill out the Kingdom line, why not include something like Red Alert with English tampographs instead of Cybertronian ones for "FD" and "Fire Chief" on his alt mode. They wouldn't even have to alter the plastic colors or paint mask, except for the tampographs. Doesn't sound complicated to me, and it would pretty much fix the ONLY thing that makes it harder for Siege Red Alert to pass as having an "Earth Mode" than the likes of Sideswipe or Tigertrack, who don't really need a remold or repaint to look at home on the shelf with the rest of the War for Cybertron Earthrise cast in either robot or vehicle mode.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090420)
Posted by ShadowBlaze on December 21st, 2020 @ 12:32pm CST
I know the Earthrise Arcee mold is objectively a bad Transformer toy, but darn it if it hasn't grown on me. I don't like the parts-forming employed in this line, and I was really disappointed that HasTak cheaped out and didn't paint her backside. By the time the first reviews were slipping out, I was prepared to be utterly disappointed with her.

And then I got her in-hand.

Maybe I can be more forgiving because mine didn't have any QC issues. I hate transformations that involve a lot of limb origami, but it only took me a couple of tries to figure out precisely how everything needed to be placed for her conversion. Even with the stiff ankle-rockers, I found her relatively easy to pose and balance...thanks to those hideous but highly functional heels. Even the giant backpack doesn't bother me as much as I expected, since keeping the back half of the car attached obscures the weird silhouette created by the folding front fenders. In terms of engineering, it's a huge step back from Thrilling 30...and yet I feel like the result is a better proportioned robot. She doesn't top Titans Return Arcee for me, but I do prefer her to Cyberverse, and I think she does a better job than Thrilling 30 at conveying feminine robot as opposed to human female cosplaying as robot.

I also have Lifeline and Elita-1. In terms of paint and colour layout, I think Elita-1 looks the nicest, but I agree that the clearance issue created by her unique shoulder pieces makes her the most problematic of the three to transform. Still, I don't dislike her, and I prefer this to her obscenely stickered and bulked up POTP toy.

Strangely, I think my least-favourite Earthrise purchase is Fasttrack. I don't like the way his guns are designed to attach or how that limits placement options in robot mode. Of course Black Roritchi has the same issue, but at least his colours are a bit more interesting.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090425)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 21st, 2020 @ 2:07pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.

I think they tried to do a robot mode 1st thing where they really nail the robot mode by making her a shellformer.

Of course that was foiled by the absence of paint. If she had a real premium paint job I could appreciate the effort more.

I can't say why they didn't just reissue the old one. Maybe they wanted to tie it into the gimmick more? Or maybe it's a movie anniversary thing where they decided to go all-out and give new molds for everyone.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090431)
Posted by LinaNui on December 21st, 2020 @ 3:07pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.


That's the million dollar question. I read recently on these boards that Hasbro and Takara Tomy might have tried to use some of the "Arcee Prime" engineering that was developed should she have won the Power of the Primes fan poll for the next Prime. That's just an anecdote without proper citation, though.

The real head scratcher now is why they would bother to re-release Earthrise Arcee in Kingdom. If they wanted to reissue another Deluxe sized character to fill out the Kingdom line, why not include something like Red Alert with English tampographs instead of Cybertronian ones for "FD" and "Fire Chief" on his alt mode. They wouldn't even have to alter the plastic colors or paint mask, except for the tampographs. Doesn't sound complicated to me, and it would pretty much fix the ONLY thing that makes it harder for Siege Red Alert to pass as having an "Earth Mode" than the likes of Sideswipe or Tigertrack, who don't really need a remold or repaint to look at home on the shelf with the rest of the War for Cybertron Earthrise cast in either robot or vehicle mode.

I think the reason that Arcee is getting a release is so that she is on shelves when the rest of the 86 movie figures are so that it is easier to complete the cast. I have no proof but it does make sense.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090436)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 21st, 2020 @ 4:35pm CST
LinaNui wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.


That's the million dollar question. I read recently on these boards that Hasbro and Takara Tomy might have tried to use some of the "Arcee Prime" engineering that was developed should she have won the Power of the Primes fan poll for the next Prime. That's just an anecdote without proper citation, though.

The real head scratcher now is why they would bother to re-release Earthrise Arcee in Kingdom. If they wanted to reissue another Deluxe sized character to fill out the Kingdom line, why not include something like Red Alert with English tampographs instead of Cybertronian ones for "FD" and "Fire Chief" on his alt mode. They wouldn't even have to alter the plastic colors or paint mask, except for the tampographs. Doesn't sound complicated to me, and it would pretty much fix the ONLY thing that makes it harder for Siege Red Alert to pass as having an "Earth Mode" than the likes of Sideswipe or Tigertrack, who don't really need a remold or repaint to look at home on the shelf with the rest of the War for Cybertron Earthrise cast in either robot or vehicle mode.

I think the reason that Arcee is getting a release is so that she is on shelves when the rest of the 86 movie figures are so that it is easier to complete the cast. I have no proof but it does make sense.

That's a good theory, the idea i was working with was that Hasbro might have thought she would be hard to get (scalpers etc) so by re-releasing, it gives fans plenty of chances to get her.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090438)
Posted by Emerje on December 21st, 2020 @ 5:04pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
LinaNui wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.


That's the million dollar question. I read recently on these boards that Hasbro and Takara Tomy might have tried to use some of the "Arcee Prime" engineering that was developed should she have won the Power of the Primes fan poll for the next Prime. That's just an anecdote without proper citation, though.

The real head scratcher now is why they would bother to re-release Earthrise Arcee in Kingdom. If they wanted to reissue another Deluxe sized character to fill out the Kingdom line, why not include something like Red Alert with English tampographs instead of Cybertronian ones for "FD" and "Fire Chief" on his alt mode. They wouldn't even have to alter the plastic colors or paint mask, except for the tampographs. Doesn't sound complicated to me, and it would pretty much fix the ONLY thing that makes it harder for Siege Red Alert to pass as having an "Earth Mode" than the likes of Sideswipe or Tigertrack, who don't really need a remold or repaint to look at home on the shelf with the rest of the War for Cybertron Earthrise cast in either robot or vehicle mode.

I think the reason that Arcee is getting a release is so that she is on shelves when the rest of the 86 movie figures are so that it is easier to complete the cast. I have no proof but it does make sense.

That's a good theory, the idea i was working with was that Hasbro might have thought she would be hard to get (scalpers etc) so by re-releasing, it gives fans plenty of chances to get her.

Little did they know she'd be almost completely unavailable to most of the world. Sure would like to know where Walmart's and Target's supply of waves 2 and 3 ended up because they sure didn't make it into many stores. My local stores only got Battle Masters and Micromasters wave 1 (Target only, and only at launch with no restock), Deluxe wave 1, Voyagers wave 1 and 2, and Leader waves 1 and 2 (there was no 3). Target also got Sky Lynx, but not Scorponok and no ER exclusives. It's a good thing I bought almost everything online. The idea that Arcee was reissued to go with the movie figures from SS86 is pretty plausible, especially when you notice Leader Galvatron is going to be released around the same time as the reissued Voyager Starscream which can't be a coincidence.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090461)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 22nd, 2020 @ 6:56am CST
So what are we up to the 5th delay on Thrust now?
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090462)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 22nd, 2020 @ 7:05am CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So what are we up to the 5th delay on Thrust now?

I think 3rd, it was December 1-8, then the 15th, then the 28th, and now 1-5-2021 I think
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090464)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 22nd, 2020 @ 7:34am CST
I think most of my local stores are just holding on to old stock until after Christmas.

While I found waves 2-3 of ER, there's been no evidence of the voyagers and the Toys R Us just hasn't gotten him. Meanwhile they have a whole shelf full of Magnii and tons of wave 1 Siege.

I saw one Netflix Prime recently at my local Walmart. But no Neflix deluxes. Tons of Siege Barricades and Sixguns, though.

Maybe it's the same elsewhere. Just holding on to old stock until after Boxing Day.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090474)
Posted by william-james88 on December 22nd, 2020 @ 4:53pm CST
Emerje wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
LinaNui wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.


That's the million dollar question. I read recently on these boards that Hasbro and Takara Tomy might have tried to use some of the "Arcee Prime" engineering that was developed should she have won the Power of the Primes fan poll for the next Prime. That's just an anecdote without proper citation, though.

The real head scratcher now is why they would bother to re-release Earthrise Arcee in Kingdom. If they wanted to reissue another Deluxe sized character to fill out the Kingdom line, why not include something like Red Alert with English tampographs instead of Cybertronian ones for "FD" and "Fire Chief" on his alt mode. They wouldn't even have to alter the plastic colors or paint mask, except for the tampographs. Doesn't sound complicated to me, and it would pretty much fix the ONLY thing that makes it harder for Siege Red Alert to pass as having an "Earth Mode" than the likes of Sideswipe or Tigertrack, who don't really need a remold or repaint to look at home on the shelf with the rest of the War for Cybertron Earthrise cast in either robot or vehicle mode.

I think the reason that Arcee is getting a release is so that she is on shelves when the rest of the 86 movie figures are so that it is easier to complete the cast. I have no proof but it does make sense.

That's a good theory, the idea i was working with was that Hasbro might have thought she would be hard to get (scalpers etc) so by re-releasing, it gives fans plenty of chances to get her.

Little did they know she'd be almost completely unavailable to most of the world.


I think it's the exact opposite. Hasbro has 0 control on distribution beyond Hasbro Pulse. So, since all previous Gen arcees were either exclusive or hard to obtain at wide retail (even though t30 Arcee was available for years on BBTS at retail price), they wanted this one to e as available as possible, to the point of reissuing her in the next year. Plus it would tie into all the movie characters coming out in 2021, so 2 bird with 1 stone, ensuring that whoever wants her gets her eventually.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090476)
Posted by o.supreme on December 22nd, 2020 @ 7:18pm CST
william-james88 wrote:even though T30 Arcee was available for years on BBTS at retail price


You can STILL get T30 Arcee for less than retail, if you want to buy a whole wave case that is ;)

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... tails/7164

On her own she is $25, which is probably what normal deluxe price will be in a couple years anyway... ;)
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090478)
Posted by Emerje on December 22nd, 2020 @ 10:33pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
LinaNui wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.


That's the million dollar question. I read recently on these boards that Hasbro and Takara Tomy might have tried to use some of the "Arcee Prime" engineering that was developed should she have won the Power of the Primes fan poll for the next Prime. That's just an anecdote without proper citation, though.

The real head scratcher now is why they would bother to re-release Earthrise Arcee in Kingdom. If they wanted to reissue another Deluxe sized character to fill out the Kingdom line, why not include something like Red Alert with English tampographs instead of Cybertronian ones for "FD" and "Fire Chief" on his alt mode. They wouldn't even have to alter the plastic colors or paint mask, except for the tampographs. Doesn't sound complicated to me, and it would pretty much fix the ONLY thing that makes it harder for Siege Red Alert to pass as having an "Earth Mode" than the likes of Sideswipe or Tigertrack, who don't really need a remold or repaint to look at home on the shelf with the rest of the War for Cybertron Earthrise cast in either robot or vehicle mode.

I think the reason that Arcee is getting a release is so that she is on shelves when the rest of the 86 movie figures are so that it is easier to complete the cast. I have no proof but it does make sense.

That's a good theory, the idea i was working with was that Hasbro might have thought she would be hard to get (scalpers etc) so by re-releasing, it gives fans plenty of chances to get her.

Little did they know she'd be almost completely unavailable to most of the world.


I think it's the exact opposite. Hasbro has 0 control on distribution beyond Hasbro Pulse. So, since all previous Gen arcees were either exclusive or hard to obtain at wide retail (even though t30 Arcee was available for years on BBTS at retail price), they wanted this one to e as available as possible, to the point of reissuing her in the next year. Plus it would tie into all the movie characters coming out in 2021, so 2 bird with 1 stone, ensuring that whoever wants her gets her eventually.

How is that the exact opposite? You just reiterated the same point that LinaNui, ZeroWolf and myself made. The Kingdom reissue makes sense both from movie tie-in standpoint and an availability standpoint.

And when I was talking about supply I was talking about distribution out of store warehouses, not from Hasbro. It's no surprise that normal logistics didn't stand up to the wave of issues brought on in 2020, but Hasbro continued to make figures even if it meant cancelling plans for wave 4, and stores continued to order them to stock shelves. But for whatever reason a lot of stuff simply didn't make it into stores this year, but that product has to be somewhere. Whether stores simply couldn't get it out of their warehouses in time or they canceled their orders with Hasbro because they knew the next big thing was coming, those figures have to be sitting somewhere.

One thing I miss from the Unicron Trilogy days is when they had too many figures they would start selling 2-packs at a discount price at Christmas to clear stock. I'm sure we're going to see a lot of Earthrise stuff ending up at Ollie's next year.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090490)
Posted by william-james88 on December 23rd, 2020 @ 12:20am CST
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
LinaNui wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.


That's the million dollar question. I read recently on these boards that Hasbro and Takara Tomy might have tried to use some of the "Arcee Prime" engineering that was developed should she have won the Power of the Primes fan poll for the next Prime. That's just an anecdote without proper citation, though.

The real head scratcher now is why they would bother to re-release Earthrise Arcee in Kingdom. If they wanted to reissue another Deluxe sized character to fill out the Kingdom line, why not include something like Red Alert with English tampographs instead of Cybertronian ones for "FD" and "Fire Chief" on his alt mode. They wouldn't even have to alter the plastic colors or paint mask, except for the tampographs. Doesn't sound complicated to me, and it would pretty much fix the ONLY thing that makes it harder for Siege Red Alert to pass as having an "Earth Mode" than the likes of Sideswipe or Tigertrack, who don't really need a remold or repaint to look at home on the shelf with the rest of the War for Cybertron Earthrise cast in either robot or vehicle mode.

I think the reason that Arcee is getting a release is so that she is on shelves when the rest of the 86 movie figures are so that it is easier to complete the cast. I have no proof but it does make sense.

That's a good theory, the idea i was working with was that Hasbro might have thought she would be hard to get (scalpers etc) so by re-releasing, it gives fans plenty of chances to get her.

Little did they know she'd be almost completely unavailable to most of the world.


I think it's the exact opposite. Hasbro has 0 control on distribution beyond Hasbro Pulse. So, since all previous Gen arcees were either exclusive or hard to obtain at wide retail (even though t30 Arcee was available for years on BBTS at retail price), they wanted this one to e as available as possible, to the point of reissuing her in the next year. Plus it would tie into all the movie characters coming out in 2021, so 2 bird with 1 stone, ensuring that whoever wants her gets her eventually.

How is that the exact opposite?


Because you said: Little did they know she'd be almost completely unavailable to most of the world.

And I am saying, no they knew full well this could be the case.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090492)
Posted by Emerje on December 23rd, 2020 @ 12:40am CST
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
LinaNui wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder why the ball was dropped so hard with her :-? Its not like they haven't done a good Arcee at the scale before.


That's the million dollar question. I read recently on these boards that Hasbro and Takara Tomy might have tried to use some of the "Arcee Prime" engineering that was developed should she have won the Power of the Primes fan poll for the next Prime. That's just an anecdote without proper citation, though.

The real head scratcher now is why they would bother to re-release Earthrise Arcee in Kingdom. If they wanted to reissue another Deluxe sized character to fill out the Kingdom line, why not include something like Red Alert with English tampographs instead of Cybertronian ones for "FD" and "Fire Chief" on his alt mode. They wouldn't even have to alter the plastic colors or paint mask, except for the tampographs. Doesn't sound complicated to me, and it would pretty much fix the ONLY thing that makes it harder for Siege Red Alert to pass as having an "Earth Mode" than the likes of Sideswipe or Tigertrack, who don't really need a remold or repaint to look at home on the shelf with the rest of the War for Cybertron Earthrise cast in either robot or vehicle mode.

I think the reason that Arcee is getting a release is so that she is on shelves when the rest of the 86 movie figures are so that it is easier to complete the cast. I have no proof but it does make sense.

That's a good theory, the idea i was working with was that Hasbro might have thought she would be hard to get (scalpers etc) so by re-releasing, it gives fans plenty of chances to get her.

Little did they know she'd be almost completely unavailable to most of the world.


I think it's the exact opposite. Hasbro has 0 control on distribution beyond Hasbro Pulse. So, since all previous Gen arcees were either exclusive or hard to obtain at wide retail (even though t30 Arcee was available for years on BBTS at retail price), they wanted this one to e as available as possible, to the point of reissuing her in the next year. Plus it would tie into all the movie characters coming out in 2021, so 2 bird with 1 stone, ensuring that whoever wants her gets her eventually.

How is that the exact opposite?


Because you said: Little did they know she'd be almost completely unavailable to most of the world.

And I am saying, no they knew full well this could be the case.

I wasn't saying that to disagree with ZeroWolf, I was saying it was for a different reason (few stores stocking her) than what they thought (high demand) but with the same end result.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090494)
Posted by Emerje on December 23rd, 2020 @ 1:03am CST
Finally, just noticed this:

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The delay is finally over! Now my only Earthrise concern is getting my hands on Thrust.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090498)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 23rd, 2020 @ 3:35am CST
I do wonder what the issue with Thrust is, my assumption was it was supposed to hit Target the same time as Runabout/Runamuck (which ever was the target Exclusive) yet at this point, he'll be showing up with the Kingdom Voyagers.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090499)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 23rd, 2020 @ 4:05am CST
I'm hoping Scorponok gets a Pulse reissue or something
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090507)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 23rd, 2020 @ 7:19am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I do wonder what the issue with Thrust is, my assumption was it was supposed to hit Target the same time as Runabout/Runamuck (which ever was the target Exclusive) yet at this point, he'll be showing up with the Kingdom Voyagers.

Like I think was brought up earlier in this thread, maybe a container of Thrusts were lost in that shipping container loss a few weeks back, and as a result only a very limited stock has made it out.

I did learn today that one of the containers held a bunch of Figuarts figures that were due this month, including the "I am Iron Man" version of the MK85 I had preordered, and who knows how that will affect that release. Thrust could be a similar thing.

Also noticing on social media that A LOT of people have the "order update" email going to their junk mail or something, because I've noticed in the past week at least 10 Twitter mutuals and several Facebook members of different groups have had their Thrusts outright cancelled when they went to their order to see if it had shipped.

But at the same time, a friend ordered 3 Thrusts and 1 shipped out last Friday, so there's that wrinkle too.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090512)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 23rd, 2020 @ 8:54am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm hoping Scorponok gets a Pulse reissue or something


I think there is a pretty reasonable chance of that happening in the middle of next year, just like Omega Supreme got a re-issue this year.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090675)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 25th, 2020 @ 6:03pm CST
Just opened up my Airwave, Allicon, and Sky Lynx for Christmas, and I have to say, all three are amazing. Sky Lynx is probably my favorite just due to the fact that he's a shuttle dragon, but Allicon is a close second despite the visible arms in beast mode. Airwave's pretty good too, but I wish his eyes were either more vibrant or light piped
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090683)
Posted by Emerje on December 25th, 2020 @ 9:52pm CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Just opened up my Airwave, Allicon, and Sky Lynx for Christmas, and I have to say, all three are amazing. Sky Lynx is probably my favorite just due to the fact that he's a shuttle dragon, but Allicon is a close second despite the visible arms in beast mode. Airwave's pretty good too, but I wish his eyes were either more vibrant or light piped

You know, until you mentioned it I didn't even realize he has eyes, I thought he was a mono eye like Shockwave and Whirl. Makes me wonder if at some point the design team decided to paint the empty space where eyes would normally be instead of the obvious round lens in the middle of his face.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090684)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 25th, 2020 @ 10:13pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm hoping Scorponok gets a Pulse reissue or something


I think there is a pretty reasonable chance of that happening in the middle of next year, just like Omega Supreme got a re-issue this year.
I really frakking hope so, because right now all the Scorponoks not in the hands of legit consumers are in scalper hoards.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090692)
Posted by bacem on December 26th, 2020 @ 12:28am CST
Emerje wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Just opened up my Airwave, Allicon, and Sky Lynx for Christmas, and I have to say, all three are amazing. Sky Lynx is probably my favorite just due to the fact that he's a shuttle dragon, but Allicon is a close second despite the visible arms in beast mode. Airwave's pretty good too, but I wish his eyes were either more vibrant or light piped

You know, until you mentioned it I didn't even realize he has eyes, I thought he was a mono eye like Shockwave and Whirl. Makes me wonder if at some point the design team decided to paint the empty space where eyes would normally be instead of the obvious round lens in the middle of his face.

Emerje


....he's not a monoeye?
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090694)
Posted by Emerje on December 26th, 2020 @ 1:02am CST
bacem wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Just opened up my Airwave, Allicon, and Sky Lynx for Christmas, and I have to say, all three are amazing. Sky Lynx is probably my favorite just due to the fact that he's a shuttle dragon, but Allicon is a close second despite the visible arms in beast mode. Airwave's pretty good too, but I wish his eyes were either more vibrant or light piped

You know, until you mentioned it I didn't even realize he has eyes, I thought he was a mono eye like Shockwave and Whirl. Makes me wonder if at some point the design team decided to paint the empty space where eyes would normally be instead of the obvious round lens in the middle of his face.

Emerje


....he's not a monoeye?

Right? He certainly looks like one, but when you look closer you can see that they painted in his red eyes on each side so I guess he has a big round nose? I'm going to continue seeing him as a mono eye, I'm guessing they were trying to set him apart from Hot House who does have the lens painted in.
airrade.JPG


Now that I think about it it reminds me of (but the opposite) the mysterious Frenzy reissue we got that was painted up as a mono eye for no obvious reason.
Image

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090708)
Posted by alekese on December 26th, 2020 @ 12:42pm CST
Having opened up the astro patrol as part of clearing my pile of loot for christmas, I decided to make a mockup of the upcoming botropolis set, trying to create a crawler and launch tower setup. (Didn't bother digging out the battle patrol because it didn't affect the connections.)
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The crawler is actually surprisingly stable when held so long as you keep it level. Probably going to headcanon the names of the botropolis set as new characters Launchpad (Airwave) and Gantry (Ironworks) for the modulators, Moonrock and Missile Master for the battle patrol retool, and Storm Jet and Raker for the astro patrol, after the original inspiration for the deco and the other use of said mold.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090710)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 26th, 2020 @ 12:50pm CST
That's really well done, especially Ironworks! :APPLAUSE:
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090768)
Posted by M. Spector on December 27th, 2020 @ 10:26am CST
Found wave 3 last night at one of my local meijer! Only picked up Runamuck and Fasttrack, both are really quiet nice. I love how on Fasttracks box art you can see a gigantic Airwave standing in a forest! Really gives credence to the fact the baseforemrs are supposed to be HUGE in cannon.
As for Runamuck, gosh dang is that vehicle mode snazzy looking. It's a lil bit panel-y but I think the Runabout repaint fixes some of that yeah? Transformation is nice too, seemingly simple but very satisfying and interesting to do. If Sunstreaker came with a proper gun I'd probably have picked him up too >:oP
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090771)
Posted by aronjlove on December 27th, 2020 @ 11:36am CST
My order has been sitting with no delivery date for a while but it wasn't canceled so I let it sit. Just now received an email saying I should have it tomorrow. If you still have an open order, don't give up hope!
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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090772)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on December 27th, 2020 @ 11:37am CST
Just waiting on Thrust to show up, then all I'll need is Scorponok to complete the set
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090791)
Posted by Emerje on December 27th, 2020 @ 6:05pm CST
grimdragon2001 wrote:Just waiting on Thrust to show up, then all I'll need is Scorponok to complete the set

My local Target put Thrust shelf labels up this week. Doesn't really mean anything though since they had Seeker two pack labels up for months without ever putting anything on the shelf and this store cares so little about the Transformers section that it still has tags on the Deluxe pegs from the sale that ended on 12/19. Like the Seekers I'll probably get it online once they fill their backlog of orders.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090823)
Posted by LinaNui on December 28th, 2020 @ 10:23am CST
My brother and I finally sat down and set up a large city and battle with our figures. I am really liking what WFC has been putting out (except for the beast half of kingdom). We did not put blast effects out since we ran out of time.

https://youtu.be/9a175W4iTZo (video of the setup on youtube)
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090851)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 28th, 2020 @ 5:21pm CST
I checked out some Target stores earlier today, hoping to find any sign of Earthrise Thrust. Instead, I found the pegs and shelves nearly empty of Transformers toys. The holiday rush really did wipe it all out this year. There are no more Siege Shockwaves or Earthrise Grapples to be seen. There's basically nothing around at any size class, except for a few lingering Battle Masters and Micromasters. I guess if you wait long enough, people desperate for a gift for a child will buy whatever they can. The Cyberverse stuff was marginally more plentiful, but compared to how the pegs are usually bursting with that stuff, the stock is pretty low. Now, without any old product getting in the way, there should be no reason not to put Kingdom stuff out on the shelves as soon as it arrives.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090861)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 28th, 2020 @ 9:49pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:I checked out some Target stores earlier today, hoping to find any sign of Earthrise Thrust. Instead, I found the pegs and shelves nearly empty of Transformers toys. The holiday rush really did wipe it all out this year. There are no more Siege Shockwaves or Earthrise Grapples to be seen. There's basically nothing around at any size class, except for a few lingering Battle Masters and Micromasters. I guess if you wait long enough, people desperate for a gift for a child will buy whatever they can. The Cyberverse stuff was marginally more plentiful, but compared to how the pegs are usually bursting with that stuff, the stock is pretty low. Now, without any old product getting in the way, there should be no reason not to put Kingdom stuff out on the shelves as soon as it arrives.


I'm hearing rumors that the shelves look like that less from sales, and more from problems getting the product over here and off the boats. January/February might be a bit crazy.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090879)
Posted by Emerje on December 29th, 2020 @ 6:54am CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:I checked out some Target stores earlier today, hoping to find any sign of Earthrise Thrust. Instead, I found the pegs and shelves nearly empty of Transformers toys. The holiday rush really did wipe it all out this year. There are no more Siege Shockwaves or Earthrise Grapples to be seen. There's basically nothing around at any size class, except for a few lingering Battle Masters and Micromasters. I guess if you wait long enough, people desperate for a gift for a child will buy whatever they can. The Cyberverse stuff was marginally more plentiful, but compared to how the pegs are usually bursting with that stuff, the stock is pretty low. Now, without any old product getting in the way, there should be no reason not to put Kingdom stuff out on the shelves as soon as it arrives.

Heh, the only Generations figures of any kind at my local Target was two Siege Shockwaves and one SS Shockwave. Heck, the only other Transformers left in the section were some random Cyberverse one steps, one Seeker 4-pack, and bunch of clearanced Series 2 BotBots.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm hearing rumors that the shelves look like that less from sales, and more from problems getting the product over here and off the boats. January/February might be a bit crazy.

Not sure if I believe that. Online stores including Target.com didn't seem to have any issues getting stuff in stock (though maybe a little understock) and we've seen a bunch of things this month show up earlier than expected. Hasbro got stuff in even though they had to cancel wave 4 and alter their time tables to push things back a little (while still keeping Earthrise within it's planned time frame) to do it. But what happened after it left Hasbro's warehouse is anyone's guess.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090888)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 29th, 2020 @ 9:35am CST
Yay for the 5th delay notice from Target on Thrust. :BANG_HEAD:
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Autobot Alliance and Paradron Medics Sets (2090889)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 29th, 2020 @ 9:36am CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Yay for the 5th delay notice from Target on Thrust. :BANG_HEAD:

Got mine too, ugh.

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