Walmart Exclusive Star Raiders Transformers Available for Preorder

I can tell Filch is the short-packed one ;_;

Very fast stream today with nothing we haven't seen before (they joke about Legacy United wave 2 has already been leaked, but they'll be talking Legacy all of next week's stream). They did mention a couple things about the Star Raider figures. Cannonball can store his weapons in his legs. His Cyber Key slots in the same way the original does, not with a peg or anything like that. The images of Lockdown and the one they had on the stream are missing additional silver and green paint ops on his legs shown on the back of the box CAD version and will be updating the images soon. Likewise Ferak will have some additional paint on his chest.

Emerje

Looks good. Just not $55 good.

ScottyP wrote:I can tell Filch is the short-packed one ;_;

Here we thought they finally smartened up and did an even case of 4 figures, only for the stream to confirm that Road Pig and Thundertron are coming later in the year so it looks like we're getting another instance like Velocitron where we get a late refresh that swaps some Deluxe figures out for another (and most Walmarts wont even bother like with Crasher, Shadowstrip and Galaxy Shuttle).

Emerje

God's dammit Walmart...

Well I got Lockdown, my highest priority, at least. And Ferak. Cannonball sold out in my cart though and Filch was already long gone. Why don't heir damned exclusives have to be so difficult to get

Flashwave wrote:God's dammit Walmart...

Well I got Lockdown, my highest priority, at least. And Ferak. Cannonball sold out in my cart though and Filch was already long gone. Why don't heir damned exclusives have to be so difficult to get

I think it's because they mainly want you to get them in store

Emerje wrote:

ScottyP wrote:I can tell Filch is the short-packed one ;_;

Here we thought they finally smartened up and did an even case of 4 figures, only for the stream to confirm that Road Pig and Thundertron are coming later in the year so it looks like we're getting another instance like Velocitron where we get a late refresh that swaps some Deluxe figures out for another (and most Walmarts wont even bother like with Crasher, Shadowstrip and Galaxy Shuttle).

Emerje

ok, so Im a little confused.... Hasbro just released a Voyager Thundertron for Legacy United. But Walmart is getting a Leader later this year? Is this just going to be a repaint with some "added stuff" to make it a Leader?

The worst part of those refreshes was that while all 3 were on Pulse in limited Quantities, Galaxy Shuttle was only on Walmart.com for a short time as well (so glad I got one), while Crasher and Shadowstrip never had valid pre-orders on Walmart.com.

Galaxy Shuttle never showed up in stores, while Crasher and Shadowstrip were extremely limited. I still cant believe I actually found a single Shadowstip in the wild, at a random visit to a Walmart I don't frequent.

o.supreme wrote:

Emerje wrote:

ScottyP wrote:I can tell Filch is the short-packed one ;_;

Here we thought they finally smartened up and did an even case of 4 figures, only for the stream to confirm that Road Pig and Thundertron are coming later in the year so it looks like we're getting another instance like Velocitron where we get a late refresh that swaps some Deluxe figures out for another (and most Walmarts wont even bother like with Crasher, Shadowstrip and Galaxy Shuttle).

Emerje

ok, so Im a little confused.... Hasbro just released a Voyager Thundertron for Legacy United. But Walmart is getting a Leader later this year? Is this just going to be a repaint with some "added stuff" to make it a Leader?

We've been wondering about that ever since the leaks first revealed the two different Thundertron releases.

No luck online but thankfully my Walmart always seems to be overloaded with the exclusives (there's still a bunch of grimlocks and cloud covers there now)

I'm definitely gonna get ferak and filch, though the wing pieces seem a little too big for her forearms. Cannonball having the hammer, claw, and gun is awesome. Love that. Lockdown idk now. They basically said they're gonna do an animated lockdown eventually. Though I could still use this one for junkasaurus. Decisions decisions

I really want roadpig and thundertron to be revealed already. The anticipation is getting annoying

Word of the day for this stream was definitely "exemplify" lol

It's funny seeing so many people so interested in Ferak when, back when the BotCon 2014 version was first unveiled, everyone and their mother considered Ferak to be the biggest waste of plastic that Fun Pub had ever made up to that point.

In today's stream,

• Mark called Lockdown a Weaponizer.
• Ferak's face is based on Floro Dery's early Cyclonus face design, which was used for the Marvel version of Cyclonus.
• And a few mistakes were made: Mark repeatedly said Filch is from Cyberverse, and both he and BMac repeatedly mispronounced Ferak's name as "Fer-ROCK" instead of "Fair-ack".

I got the figures I wanted but I noticed that when I used a Credit Card I wasn't charged but when I used a debit card I was charged right away, I think Walmart might be one of those stores that charges Debit Cards right away, it happens.

Speaking of figures I was waiting for...

Emerje wrote:

ScottyP wrote:I can tell Filch is the short-packed one ;_;

Here we thought they finally smartened up and did an even case of 4 figures, only for the stream to confirm that Road Pig and Thundertron are coming later in the year so it looks like we're getting another instance like Velocitron where we get a late refresh that swaps some Deluxe figures out for another (and most Walmarts wont even bother like with Crasher, Shadowstrip and Galaxy Shuttle).

Emerje

Are you sure they meant a later wave when they said the rest would come later in the year? The Toxitron colletion was only 1 wave with Toxitron, Cloudcover and Jazz revealed and put up for pre-order at the collector con and the remaining figures revealed at SDCC officially but being found in stores a week or 2 earlier. Unless they specifically said a later wave, I'm more inclined to think they meant the reveals are what are coming later, not the toys themselves. If that is the case, then it should be an even case of 4 deluxes with nobody shortpacked and solid cases of 1 figure for voyager and leader.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

ScottyP wrote:I can tell Filch is the short-packed one ;_;

Here we thought they finally smartened up and did an even case of 4 figures, only for the stream to confirm that Road Pig and Thundertron are coming later in the year so it looks like we're getting another instance like Velocitron where we get a late refresh that swaps some Deluxe figures out for another (and most Walmarts wont even bother like with Crasher, Shadowstrip and Galaxy Shuttle).

Emerje

Are you sure they meant a later wave when they said the rest would come later in the year? The Toxitron colletion was only 1 wave with Toxitron, Cloudcover and Jazz revealed and put up for pre-order at the collector con and the remaining figures revealed at SDCC officially but being found in stores a week or 2 earlier. Unless they specifically said a later wave, I'm more inclined to think they meant the reveals are what are coming later, not the toys themselves. If that is the case, then it should be an even case of 4 deluxes with nobody shortpacked and solid cases of 1 figure for voyager and leader.

Its the same as the toxitron wave. While the toys will be revealed at different times, they will all be released in the same wave

Hasbro and one of the main designers, Mark Maher, has posted new photos of the Star Raiders which were officially revealed yesterday. While we see nice shots of the group is does give us a better look at the final deco for Lockdown, which has extra deco on the hood including green stripes and individually painted spikes. Ferak is said to also have extra deco not seen in the initial stock images which we can see in these photos.

Mark posted his own photos on Instagram which show how you can give Lockdown longer legs, making him look more like his lanky self. As an extra bonus, those leg extensions seem to be a preview of Road Pig, the 4th deluxe in this line, and those are his arms. Which means that he is the Crashbar mold and the final piece to completing Junkasaurus.

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Instagram post with some more pirate pics is up

And here's the review for Shard

I actually like these faces

steve2275 wrote:I actually like these faces

Agreed, except Lockdown's, which I'm on the fence about. I know he can't have his trademark Animated squint in every universe, but these big, insectoid, compound eyes, combined with his mouth sculpt, make him look stoned or something...from certain angles at least. In one pic he looks OK, so I might need to see him in person. Or I might just not need another Lockdown.

Cannonball's the opposite. Never bothered with him before because I thought the original Cybertron Red Alert repaint looked kind of cheap or something; maybe I was just mad that the obvious Crankcase repaint hadn't happened yet. But this one looks just cool enough that he might be my first Cannonball.

Bumblevivisector wrote:

steve2275 wrote:I actually like these faces

Agreed, except Lockdown's, which I'm on the fence about. I know he can't have his trademark Animated squint in every universe, but these big, insectoid, compound eyes, combined with his mouth sculpt, make him look stoned or something...from certain angles at least. In one pic he looks OK, so I might need to see him in person. Or I might just not need another Lockdown.

It's the same head design as the Lockdown from the Revenge of the Fallen toyline.


Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Lockdown Gallery

Sabrblade wrote:

Bumblevivisector wrote:

steve2275 wrote:I actually like these faces

Agreed, except Lockdown's, which I'm on the fence about. I know he can't have his trademark Animated squint in every universe, but these big, insectoid, compound eyes, combined with his mouth sculpt, make him look stoned or something...from certain angles at least. In one pic he looks OK, so I might need to see him in person. Or I might just not need another Lockdown.

It's the same head design as the Lockdown from the Revenge of the Fallen toyline.


Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Lockdown Gallery

But this one's eyes are twice as big, and the mouth sculpt makes it appear slightly agape if there's any shadow, so Lockdown looks like he just got high off some cargo they hijacked. I can't see him being as competent a bounty hunter as his prior incarnations if he's O.D.ing on whatever the Star Raiders are smuggling.

There's something about this Lockdown iteration that seems... "Rescue Bot"-ey. Like it was made for younger tykes. The whole wave feels like a pass for me.

While Legacy voyager Origin Wheeljack (Cybertronian Wheeljack) is street dated for March 31, one store put him up early. And the fan who got him, Chicagolander, has taken images so that we can see him at every angle. And some angles sure are better than others. There is a really nice shot, though, of Bunblebee inside him, recreating the scene from the very first episode. We see what needs to be done for Bee to fit and how spacious the alt mode is.

william-james88 wrote:While Legacy voyager Origin Wheeljack (Cybertronian Wheeljack) is street dated for March 31, one store put him up early. And the fan who got him, Chicagolander, has taken images so that we can see him at every angle. And some angles sure are better than others. There is a really nice shot, though, of Bunblebee inside him, recreating the scene from the very first episode. We see what needs to be done for Bee to fit and how spacious the alt mode is.

Holy f*$%anoli! The most obvious feature fans would want that no one asked for because no one thought it was possible!

Could this be the warm up for a SS'86 Titan Astrotrain that can do the same trick with the upcoming Devastator?!?

Bumblevivisector wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While Legacy voyager Origin Wheeljack (Cybertronian Wheeljack) is street dated for March 31, one store put him up early. And the fan who got him, Chicagolander, has taken images so that we can see him at every angle. And some angles sure are better than others. There is a really nice shot, though, of Bunblebee inside him, recreating the scene from the very first episode. We see what needs to be done for Bee to fit and how spacious the alt mode is.

Holy f*$%anoli! The most obvious feature fans would want that no one asked for because no one thought it was possible!

Could this be the warm up for a SS'86 Titan Astrotrain that can do the same trick with the upcoming Devastator?!?

Being spacious enough to carry Bumblebee inside him is the whole reason why they made Wheeljack a Voyager instead of a Deluxe.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bumblevivisector wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While Legacy voyager Origin Wheeljack (Cybertronian Wheeljack) is street dated for March 31, one store put him up early. And the fan who got him, Chicagolander, has taken images so that we can see him at every angle. And some angles sure are better than others. There is a really nice shot, though, of Bunblebee inside him, recreating the scene from the very first episode. We see what needs to be done for Bee to fit and how spacious the alt mode is.

Holy f*$%anoli! The most obvious feature fans would want that no one asked for because no one thought it was possible!

Could this be the warm up for a SS'86 Titan Astrotrain that can do the same trick with the upcoming Devastator?!?

Being spacious enough to carry Bumblebee inside him is the whole reason why they made Wheeljack a Voyager instead of a Deluxe.

And still requires partially un-transforming Bee to do it.

Emerje

I don't know about a Titan Astrotrain. lol
But I would certainly entertain the idea of a Commander version if it delivered.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't know about a Titan Astrotrain. lol
But I would certainly entertain the idea of a Commander version if it delivered.

I don't see either happening. I just don't think the engineering is possible for HasTak to do what people want. That's the science-fiction aspect in force...like a 35 foot tool tyrant transforming and shrinking into something a human could hold.

First-Aid wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't know about a Titan Astrotrain. lol
But I would certainly entertain the idea of a Commander version if it delivered.

I don't see either happening. I just don't think the engineering is possible for HasTak to do what people want. That's the science-fiction aspect in force...like a 35 foot tool tyrant transforming and shrinking into something a human could hold.

And in a previous fan stream, Evan said that if they were to do a SS86 Astrotrain, it would just be a more cartoon-accurate redeco of Siege Astrotrain.

Sabrblade wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't know about a Titan Astrotrain. lol
But I would certainly entertain the idea of a Commander version if it delivered.

I don't see either happening. I just don't think the engineering is possible for HasTak to do what people want. That's the science-fiction aspect in force...like a 35 foot tool tyrant transforming and shrinking into something a human could hold.

And in a previous fan stream, Evan said that if they were to do a SS86 Astrotrain, it would just be a more cartoon-accurate redeco of Siege Astrotrain.

Really? Ugh. Is that a result of little faith in their design team, or the character's appeal? Because that mold for that character was trash. It might have worked better for Galaxy Shuttle, but Astrotrain needs a new mold. Especially a SS86 version.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't know about a Titan Astrotrain. lol
But I would certainly entertain the idea of a Commander version if it delivered.

I don't see either happening. I just don't think the engineering is possible for HasTak to do what people want. That's the science-fiction aspect in force...like a 35 foot tool tyrant transforming and shrinking into something a human could hold.

And in a previous fan stream, Evan said that if they were to do a SS86 Astrotrain, it would just be a more cartoon-accurate redeco of Siege Astrotrain.

Really? Ugh. Is that a result of little faith in their design team, or the character's appeal? Because that mold for that character was trash. It might have worked better for Galaxy Shuttle, but Astrotrain needs a new mold. Especially a SS86 version.

Indeed.

Reusing the Siege version as-is would make ZERO sense.

They could use the Siege as a base be removing the tender parts and doing some severe remolding on the main toy. That would still be a brand new mold overall.

Astrotrain deserves it.

Only ones I was interested in were Lockdown and Sandstorm. But that is not the Lockdown I was looking for. I do like the head sculpt, but, like a lot of people, I thought it was gonna be on the Chase mould. Guess I will wait for that Lockdown, seems like its still coming and maybe its Animated Lockdown? Lockdown was dragging Chase in one of those pics, hehe. Sandstorm is my only buy out of this wave and he looks awesome. The back of the legs and feet could be better though. Also it gives me a bit more hope for the SS86 Springer. has been nailing it with figures last 2 or 3 yrs.

Cybertron Starscream does look amazing, but I dont need it. Ferak is quite tempting with the new parts and all, but without Tornado I am a bit letdown. I liked those TFCC comics.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't know about a Titan Astrotrain. lol
But I would certainly entertain the idea of a Commander version if it delivered.

I don't see either happening. I just don't think the engineering is possible for HasTak to do what people want. That's the science-fiction aspect in force...like a 35 foot tool tyrant transforming and shrinking into something a human could hold.

And in a previous fan stream, Evan said that if they were to do a SS86 Astrotrain, it would just be a more cartoon-accurate redeco of Siege Astrotrain.

Really? Ugh. Is that a result of little faith in their design team, or the character's appeal? Because that mold for that character was trash. It might have worked better for Galaxy Shuttle, but Astrotrain needs a new mold. Especially a SS86 version.

Really??? I'm fine with the current AT we got though it could have been better it's acceptable for me in my Neo G1 fold. But I felt that Galaxy Shuttle got the Dk-move and SHOULD have gotten a new mold!

This Lockdown is cool even though I didn't care for the previous figures and that line.




I did get Axor and with time I lost interest and chose to part ways all cause of the crappy soft plastic that was used. So I think we should get another repaint from this mold on the horizon...'nuff said!

GIMME!

Uh.... no. Just... no. I'll leave "Origins" Wheeljack to other collectors who can turn a blind eye to all this.

The backpack. The kibble.... those were instant passes. But he's a voyager?! What? No way.

Makes it so much easier to pass

This is actually good news. Many fans bemoaned the idea of having open windows since it would lead to theft or missing accessories and Hasbro is answering one particular concern with how Gears is packaged. His chestplate is not pinned and so can be detached. So, what Hasbro did is have it stored in a bag within the box instead of affixed on the chest where it might be removed.
Also, we are letting you know so that you don't think the toy is missing its chest when you see it at retail.

The wave 2 toys have been found in Singapore in a collector shop by Jhund the Jester, as well as other areas in Asia, and should be hitting North American distribution next month, at least online.

william-james88 wrote:This is actually good news. Many fans bemoaned the idea of having open windows since it would lead to theft or missing accessories and Hasbro is answering one particular concern with how Gears is packaged. His chestplate is not pinned and so can be detached. So, what Hasbro did is have it stored in a bag within the box instead of affixed on the chest where it might be removed.
Also, we are letting you know so that you don't think the toy is missing its chest when you see it at retail.

The wave 2 toys have been found in Singapore in a collector shop by Jhund the Jester, as well as other areas in Asia, and should be hitting North American distribution next month, at least online.

Isn't that slot where his "special Circuit" went in the episode "Changing Gears"?

If I find Wheeljack in a Target store, I'll pick him up and probably keep him in vehicle mode. That backpack is atrocious and I have other Wheeljacks for the robot mode. Just like with Jazz and Bee, I like the vehicle mode much better anyway.

And Gears needs to show up on Amazon soon...

Oh how easily folks forget:





The wing shield is a removable accessory, not a permanent fixture.

The rest of it still looks bad.

Rodimus Prime wrote:The rest of it still looks bad.

Jazz and Bumblebee's entire backsides were all kibble too:




That's what it takes to make them show-accurate.

If anything, blame the original animators for giving them all such un-orthodoxically-designed Cybertronian altmodes with robot modes that already sported their Earth altmode kibble, which no one back then ever imagined that future iterations of the Hasbro brand would ever try to recreate into toy form some four decades later.

I think in the in-hand pics Wheeljack's backpack isn't folded up all the way and can sit more flush.

First-Aid wrote:Isn't that slot where his "special Circuit" went in the episode "Changing Gears"?

And good on them for homaging one of his two most iconic stories. I prefer his team-up with Spider Man in Marvel US #3, but homaging that would mean designing a Gears toy that can shatter when dropped from the scale-height of Fortress Sinister and somehow just pop back together again good-as-new, meaning all kinds of parts could be shoplifted through the open window.

Hmmm...there've also been a few Matrix accessories small enough to fit in there, right? Gearimus Prime would then have not only the voice and color scheme, but finally the responsibilities and wisdom of PAPA SMURF!

Bumblevivisector wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Isn't that slot where his "special Circuit" went in the episode "Changing Gears"?

And good on them for homaging one of his two most iconic stories. I prefer his team-up with Spider Man in Marvel US #3, but homaging that would mean designing a Gears toy that can shatter when dropped from the scale-height of Fortress Sinister and somehow just pop back together again good-as-new, meaning all kinds of parts could be shoplifted through the open window.

Hmmm...there've also been a few Matrix accessories small enough to fit in there, right? Gearimus Prime would then have not only the voice and color scheme, but finally the responsibilities and wisdom of PAPA SMURF!

With Great Power comes Great ReSmurfability.

This talk about Gears in Marvel G1 is reminding me to find a good Marvel Legends Symbiote Spider-Man figure for photoshopped comic panel recreations

Given the present state of society, this is wise.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think in the in-hand pics Wheeljack's backpack isn't folded up all the way and can sit more flush.

Only slightly more. The spoiler prevents it from folding as far as we'd all like and it tabs into the hood below the windshield when folded, but isn't tabbed in that image. The image Sabr posted tabs the spoiler correctly, but the hood section isn't pushed to his back like the new image.




Does it make a big difference? Probably not much, but it's better.

Emerje

That backpack on Origins Wheeljack is unfortunate…
But was anyone buying this for the bot mode???
I’m certainly not. And the front view is really pretty good.
I’m still looking forward to adding this figure to my collection.

Sowndwave76 wrote:That backpack on Origins Wheeljack is unfortunate…
But was anyone buying this for the bot mode???
I’m certainly not. And the front view is really pretty good.
I’m still looking forward to adding this figure to my collection.

I was. Like Bumblebee and Jazz if you look at this figure straight on it's one of the best animation accurate Wheeljack's we've gotten.